Posted by zeugma on November 4, 2005, at 19:31:57
In reply to Re: Geneva Convention » zeugma, posted by AuntieMel on November 4, 2005, at 12:14:02
> As argumentative as I like to be, you won't get one from me in this case.
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> It boggles my mind that the country I love would even consider this.
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> The Patriot Act (is this doublespeak) scared me when it passed and it scares me now.
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> Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will
> not have, nor do they deserve, either one. - Thomas Jefferson
>auntie mel, i am exhausted.
the story i told about Osama bin Laden's janitor was purely fictional. I have learned that there is a man named Salim Ahmed Hamden, allegedly Osama bin Laden's DRIVER. He was captured in 2001 and a federal appeals court ruled that he is not entitled to the protections of the Geneva Convention.
Today the Supreme Court justices are deliberating his appeal.
The story appears in today's NY TImes, written by Milt Bearden, former member of the CIA's Directorate of Operations involved in activities during the Afghan CIA supported resistance to the Soviets (ironies abound here, but I pass on.) He urges that the justices uphold the Convention in this case, or we will be guilty of moral trespass and make the our own troops in grave danger.
Now I wonder what revelations can be gotten out of bin Laden's driver through torture. You know, I don't even want to know. I'm sure that enough torture will cause Hamdan to tell a story pleasing to his captors.
I regret what has happened to my country.
But what is so shocking about this is the shamelessness, the utter illogic.
The American Psychiatric Association has denounced the "cruel, inhuman or degrading" treatment of detainees.
C.Anderson Hedberg, M.D., Steven S. Sharfstein, M.D., and Ronald F. Levant, presidents of the American College of Physicians, the American Psychiatric Association, and the American Psychological Association, respectively, write of the McCain proposal to stop these Geneva Convention violations,
"The fate of this propsal deeply concerns American health professionals. Our ethics codes condemn torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatent and prohibit health professionals from supporting such abuses."
-New York Times, Friday, November 4, 2005.
I take this as the end of Dr. Bob's doublespeak.-z
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