Posted by gromit on April 13, 2005, at 3:20:55
In reply to Re:explanation for dummies » rayww, posted by AuntieMel on April 8, 2005, at 13:20:28
> The first part says that if a court has to decide if something is 'constitutional' it can *only* consider the original constitution and what was English common law *at the time* the constitution was adopted (1700s)
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> It says the court may NOT consider past court decisions, changing standards, treaties or anything else.Is this also an attempt to get rid of that pesky Bill of Rights? Except for maybe the right to bear arms part I think conservatives would love to see it go away.
> The second part I quoted says that if any government entity or official, from local to federal, says that God is the source of law or government then the Supreme Court has no jurisdiction over that action.
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> An example would be if a trial judge were to stand up and say that all laws come from God and could quote bible verses - including 'an eye for an eye' this law would say that the Supreme court has no jurisdiction in regards to that statement.I think what you said speaks for itself, it's just so ridiculous on it's face I can't believe it would ever pass. Yes, maybe the defendant did in fact assassinate the liberal judge but hey God said it was ok. So how would they go about proving the Bible is the word of God? Or of course prove that there is a God in the first place.
> The fact that this law in itself would be unconstitutional begs the question - 'But doesn't this law take the ability of the court to call it unconstitutional away?'
Ha, that's just what I thought when I read your first post.
To me this just seems like a continuation of what they've been trying to do for years. Somehow, someway, Roe vs Wade has to be overturned or I guess in this case nullified, that's job one. Domestic spying needs to be increased, the so called "Patriot Act" doesn't go nearly far enough in their minds or alledged minds. The police need more power, no search should be illegal even if it's obviously unreasonable etc. There are many others I'm sure but those are the ones that came to mind immediately.
I hope the lunatic fringe, moral majority or whatever else you want to call them isn't strong enough to push this thru, I don't think they are. I'm not going to worry, most of the legislators have some marbles left and besides they won't do anything that would kill their chances to get re-elected like this surely would. If this thing did pass they might end up regretting not taking peoples guns away, it would be pretty good motivation for another revolution.
More than anything I'm sick of people trying to impose their religion or atheism on me. Why can't people just go to church, not believe in God, worship the devil, their gerbil or whatever without trying to suck me into it? I don't care if their kids want to pray in school as long as the school doesn't force my kids to do so. When my son gets older if he chooses to pray I'm not going to discourage it but I don't want government or lawyers involved either way.
One more thing, I wish conservative politicians would stop talking about less government and more personal rights, anyone paying *any* attention can see it's a lie. I believe according to the Bible lying is a sin, ie it's against it.
Sorry for the off topic rant. I'm in hate the world mode lately.
To make up for it google for gerbil+armageddon. If you are easily offended don't do it, but otherwise it's hilarious. I listen to this when I need a laugh...
Rick
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