Posted by Dr. Bob on October 29, 2009, at 12:13:56
In reply to Re: tweet / facebook options » psych chat, posted by floatingbridge on October 28, 2009, at 18:39:01
> Why do you see people choosing to tweet someone else's post? Would they be tweeting it to their friends and coworkers? Will they understand the risk to that?
> I don't know why anyone on earth would wish to link my posts to anything, or tweet my posts
They might consider it a particularly thoughtful and intelligent post (even if you don't). Or they might want to help you find support and information.
What risk do you see?
> You didn't answer my question. Does this have anything to do with the proposal that is in, on using social media to build an online community? If so, oughtn't you use social media to build a *new* online community?
Sorry, I didn't know which tweet you meant. No, this is separate from that, that is in fact using social media to build a new online community.
> Also, by linking to Twitter and Facebook terms of service, are you implying that you bear no responsibility for use of our posts through buttons you edited our posts to contain? I don't know whether you have legal responsibility, but in providing those buttons you have, in my opinion, made yourself morally responsible for their use.
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> DinahI take responsibility for providing the buttons, but I see those who use them as responsible for how they use them.
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> In my opinion, ultimately all that has been shattered here is an illusion of privacy - expedited by the presence of two little buttons at the bottom of each post. It's almost funny.
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> Seldom.And related to privacy is safety. Babble has never been private because of restricted access, like a gated community. But it's safe because it's anonymous -- and civil.
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> Why not place a nice big icon for sharing on the Babble Welcome page? I would not feel my promise not to be twittered was violated, because I would not feel singled out. Maybe share icons at the top of the board pages, too.
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> fbButtons on other pages is a great idea, thanks!
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> If a person was suffering and sought help from another after being raped/sexually abused, and the person they sought help from went and told a bunch of people that person was raped -it WOULD be considered socially unacceptable and sick or twisted.
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> psych chat> Case in point, our fellow babbler in distress last night. ... The way the Babble community responded was compassion in action.
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> fbI agree, this community really was great. Wouldn't it be nice if a suicidal Facebook or Twitter user joined Babble, felt the compassion here, and changed their mind?
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> I feel betrayed by you
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> I feelthat as a professional md who specializes in mental health your changes are not to be made lightly but you often act in a way that without knowing what is in your head or heart we are left to feel powerless. ... I went looking on Twitter for your site and I came across just in the search engine people calling each other vulgar language, it is obvious there is no civility guidelines for that site and yet you(Dr. Bob), who takes your own civility guidelines quite seriously ask us to be open about our words and our own issues just being posted there without our knowledge and on sites that civility is not a concern. I can't understand this.
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> Are you, Dr. Bob, concerned at all about how we feel?
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> Good luck with Babble Dr Bob, I think it might be a sinking ship.Thanks for using I-statements above. I understand you feel betrayed and powerless. And I'm concerned about how you feel, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to change my mind.
Facebook and Twitter may not take civility as seriously, but you don't have to go there if you don't want.
If the ship is sinking, it's time for some changes!
> I don't think it is fair of Dr Bob to say is this because you have anxiety issues coming up, it implies that you are mental health issue person and your concerns are not valid.
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> rskSorry, I didn't mean to imply that anyone had anxiety issues. Anxiety isn't always a symptom of an issue, it can also be a normal response to change. And to feelings of exposure and vulnerability and betrayal and powerlessness.
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> To get the best of the technology, it seems it would be more useful to link Babble with non-profit organizations, educational sources, and other mental-health related networks.
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> psych chat> I love your suggestion of linking or 'outreach' to other organizations. I think that could really be of benefit to various communities.
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> I keep saying to myself that I'm not going to post on this thread--guess I really care about what happens and our community's well-being :-)
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> fbLink with them how?
Thanks for caring about this community and thinking of other changes that might help, I appreciate that.
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> One thing that saddens me is the extent to which people here are unconsciously showing such possibly hurtful attitudes about the 'rest of the world"-- as if we --and "they"--as human beings didn't share a lot of the same pain, and as if these "other" people were likely to be rubberneckers, voyeurs, somehow not worthy of being aware of our thoughts, or part of "our" community.
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> We all share even a distrust and anxiety about others-- but I hope that we all can find it in ourselves to remember that we share with these others a lot of the same human experiences, hopes, fears, and losses.
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> Nadezda> I am sorry that you read into my comments that I've divided the world into 'us' and 'them'. ... As I question myself now as I write, I find that I do not believe the world is divided as such. However, as a person w/ my own experiences, I have learned how to take care of myself in a world that can be, at times, quite insensitive.
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> fbHmm, in addition to feeling anxious about strangers and expecting the future to be like the past, might we also be seeing in them what we don't like about ourselves?
Bob
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