Posted by Timne on July 2, 2009, at 19:04:28
In reply to Re: Apologies, posted by Dr. Bob on June 23, 2009, at 4:30:49
> Group members sometimes learn from their leader. Yes, I consistently apologize to posters who may be hurt by my actions. I have the last dozen times, anyway.
Hmmm... you apologize but don't ask forgiveness? Or you ask forgiveness but don't repent of your actions?See, the cosmology I encountered as a young human said there is an infinite font of forgiveness in the the universe, but generally, only those who repent of their actions may drink from those healing waters. But that was cosmology, and I took interest in more practical topics, including rhetoric.
In a rhetorical sense, the "apology" you seem to offer seems more related to "apologetics" - the systematic defense of a position. You seem to acknowledge suffering some express to have felt in reaction to your actions, and express sympathy along with an explanation. That's different from an apology like "I know I scratched your car. I'm sorry. I was not paying attention. What do I owe you for the damage?"
The form of apology you cite in your opus here seems more like "I know I scratched your car and I know you truly value your paint job, but my business is so important, now you just have to live with the scratch. Good luck with your feelings."
Could you please elaborate on what you consider to be apology when you apologize to members for your actions here? Is it acknowledgment of error, or is it admission that others suffer in response to your actions but you consider your purpose to be worth their suffering, or is it something else and if so, could you explain more precisely what you do mean when you apologize for your actions here?
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