Posted by fayeroe on April 3, 2008, at 10:52:53
In reply to Re: substitute teachers, posted by Dr. Bob on April 3, 2008, at 9:03:38
> > I just thought of something, there is something at the prison called "ad seg" (administrative segregation) and it is solitary. So, they do get blocked and banned. Sometimes up to 14 days if they are really bad.
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> > These are FELONS, if they are only punished for such a short length of time, how about considering that for posters here? The warden told me that nothing is accomplished after two weeks with an offender..except they come out angrier than before.
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> I think that one day online is different than one day in real life. And of course that being blocked here is different than being in solitary.How is one day online different than one day in real life? Sorrow, pain, confused, happy, angry, acting out, feeling lost, success, celebration, rejection, acceptance,fighting, stealing, etc. etc. It's all there.
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> What does someone have to do to get ad seg? And what happens if they come out after 14 days and do the same thing again?I have a book that is divided into sections and each section deals with different infractions. For instance 25.1 (a) is refusing to come to class. The rules for the offenders are very clear cut and everyone gets a copy of "offender conduct"...
To get into "ad seg", the prisoner could be caught trafficking and trading (trading stamps, food, paper and other things that aren't suitable to describe in a "family friendly forum"), fighting, disobeying rules,stealing, lying, passing kites, etc.
However, the rules have to be broken several times before they go to solitary.
The male side is always full but the female side generally only has one or two offenders in ad seg cells. (The males fight more because there are 7 gangs in their units...crips, mexican mafia, aryan brothers, bloods, etc.) Only two gangs on the female side and they are aryan sisters and mexican mafia.
Trafficking and trading can also involve gambling on sports.
Back to ad seg, it takes alot to get in there. There are disciplinary actions such as extra work duty, no library privileges, cell isolation and no visitation with friends or relatives. Going to seg is a very serious thing. The prisoner's record (in this unit) is always taken into consideration and a Captain makes the decision.
Of course some prisoners get into trouble again after being in ad seg. There are, in every pod, people who are troubled and they act out alot. There are four units and five pods in each unit. 25 cells in each pod, with two offenders in every cell. 1000 offenders in this unit.
After three times in seg, they are shipped out to a heavy duty prison and they lose their good time that they had accumulated to get to this facility.
As I've already said, I think your blocks are too long and punish people when they don't deserve it. It isn't fair to have a block forumla that the majority of the posters doesn't understand because I think it causes mistrust and confusion here.
Just as the offenders have to trust me before we can make any headway in our relationships, the posters have to trust administration. If a prisoner is always looking at me thinking, "I wonder what she is going to pull next", I am not going to have a very happy and productive student.
AND in no way, do I consider the posters here in the same light as offenders. Being in prison and being part of Babble is definitely very different. > >
As for "coming back here", some posters are too hurt and angry to come back.
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> I understand, ag seg is no fun. That's why I'm glad we're discussing suggestions and solutions.Just as ad seg is no fun, neither is being blocked from your "family" here. When an offender is removed from the general population, they are losing their support system .
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> Bob
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