Posted by muffled on February 25, 2008, at 17:53:27
In reply to Re: meeting w/Dr. Bob » muffled, posted by Dinah on February 25, 2008, at 17:26:41
> It seems like most of the posts on this board are complaining that it takes deputy too little time to ruin good discussions by giving pbc's. Not that it takes us too long.
*Well I for one LIKE PBC's, cuz they give a body the heads up. The only thing I DON'T like bout PBC's, is that one given long ago on a different thread, at a different time, can allasudden leap up and bite ya by resulting inan unexpected block, cuz the PBC is long forgotten.Other than that, I think PBC is a useful tool as far as I can see. To me it feels like a ggetle reminder to watch myself, and I learn that way. Do PBC's ruin discussions always? I dunno? Maybe I am the only one that thinks the way I do! I always think all think the same....but of course they do not.
> It wouldn't do any good at all for us to discuss removing posts with Dr. Bob. It just isn't his practice, except in one circumstance as far as I know. Posting while blocked.
*sigh. "It just isn't his practice..." Thats why I struggle. Bob don't seem to wanto change...
> I still think that posters working together to make sure that a post speedily finds its way into the archives is the only real way to get it done. It hasn't been done lately, but we used to do it. It was part of a spirit of camaraderie. Of living by the rules, but finding a way to minimize hurt to a friend anyway. And without being uncivil.
*That is a GOOD point Dinah. I remember defendingothers on admin and stuff. But...I dunno, got tired of butting my head. I would like to post, to be a good friend to others :-( I dunno. I dunno whats wrong really. Wish I did.
> There were more posters then. Maybe it would be harder to do now without breaking the three post rule.
*;-) NOther rule!!! LOL!
Yeah, if we band together, reckon it WOULD help some to at least get the post off the main board. It still would exist in the archives, but off the main board would help. I shoulda helped on that last one. Just goto get my head outta my *ss.> But I did like the feeling of working together...
*ya...
> While I understand the idea behind deputies and off board notifications, I think it also led people to give up on helping each other, in completely acceptable and civil ways.*hmmmm, now I hadn't of thot of that angle, interesting. That could definately be.
> When we suspect someone might be feeling hurt, do we start threads to tell that person how much we care about them? If someone is the topic of an uncivil post, it's great if people don't respond uncivilly. But wouldn't it be even greater if people came out in droves to post civilly in support of the poster? "XXX, I don't at all think you're yyyy. I really admire you for zzzz." I know people do it, but not as much as it used to be I think. Maybe everyone's afraid to say something wrong. I don't know.
*Not sure either. I just been doing that by B-mail, but suppose it'd be better posted....but I trying not to post...
I think it IS challenging, when you see a friend hurt, to NOT try and defend them, rather than only be supportive...and then the blocks come. My prob too, is I will read the 'bad' post several times and get angry each time. Can't seem to help myself.
> It seems to me to be even more to the point than saying something uncivil to the poster who makes what seem to be uncivil remarks. Isn't the point to say that not everyone thinks of you that way? Way more people think of you in a completely different way? That you're wonderful and loved and an asset to Babble?(((Dinah)))
> Maybe in giving posters the message that they should contact Administration and wait for a response, we haven't emphasized that it's still ok to be supportive. That being supportive is still up to fellow posters really. And that being supportive to one poster doesn't have to be done by being uncivil to another.*That last line was well said. But hard to remember in the heat of the moment.
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> I dunno. Maybe Admin really is every bit as bad as everyone thinks we are. I hate to think that, because I only agreed to do this to be helpful and do good for the community. Not to hold it down or destroy it.*OH! Great gravy Dinah!!! I for one do NOT think you are bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You KNOW its ole Bob I love to hate!;-)
I think, for me anyways, this discussion is just about trying to make babble improvements.
I am in a weird place at the moment, and I find babble triggering in assorted ways.
So mebbe for me, thats all it is.
Guess its complicated.
But Dinah, you best not be dissing Deputy Dinah, or ole Muffled gonna get blocked defending Deputy Dinah!
:-)
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