Posted by Lou Pilder on December 30, 2007, at 12:01:27
In reply to To Phillipa-sndmntlhlth?, posted by Lou Pilder on December 30, 2007, at 11:29:41
> Phillipa,
> In regards to that the policy here is that it is fine to discuss the actions taken by the administration, the action taken toward you by Robert Hsiung is IMO one that could have the potential to cause emotional and/or psychological harm to you. Freud described guilt a a feeling that does not go away easily because he wrote that there is a struggle that goes on in guilt between the ego and the superego parental imprinting. I want to use all my might to stop the potential of that happening to you.
> In a mental health community, owned and operated by a psychiatrist, action toward you of ostracizing you for posting the phrase {more often than not} could cause someone to feel guilt and shame. I find no fault with your posting about your recollection of the readings from using two types of blood pressure devices and that your experiance favored one over the other. I do not think that could be something to feel guilty or shamefull about or that you did anything wrong by posting that here, nor do I see you breaking a rule here. If you do, then let us look at what guilt and shame are and see if any guilt or shame is justified to be assigned to you for your post.
> Guilt is feeling that you have done something that is wrong. This could be an offense whether real or imagined as of breaking a rule.
> One way that psychologists define guilt as {the conflict at having done something that others or yourself say that they should not have done.} Psychologists write about others using guilt {as a tool} to minipulate, control or sometimes {shame base} others to make them more easily be able to be led. Historians in unison with psychologists write about that they theorize that guilt is used for social control, thinking that making the people feel guilty that that could make the people feel underserving and possibly make the people not want to stand up to opression.
> Guilt and shame used this way can cause depression according to many psychologists/psychiatrists, in particular when others in the group are allowed to do what one is said to be guilty of doing that is against some rule. This brings up discrimination and what could be its psychological/emotiojnal consequesnces to those discriminated against.
> I do not see that there is a cause to ostracize you here. Some other members here have posted their feelings here also concerning the action taken by Robert Hsiung toward you.
> There is a remedy for guilt. Psychologists say that one way sometimes is to admit to the guilt. But if one is not guilty, then seeking an understanding that the guilt is a {false guilt} can be a remedy. One way to do this on a psychological/ emotional basis is to conclude to yourself that the source of the guilt was illogical or irrelevant. This may be very difficuklt if the source of the guilt is a psychiatrist that writes that you are breaking a rule that others in the community have not been said that they have broken.
> Best wishes,
> LouFriends,
If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, I am requesting that you examine the following and consider those posts in any response to post in this thread.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20000220/msgs/23037.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/subs/20060727/msgs/704605.html
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