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Re: Sorry about the above post » Deneb

Posted by ElaineM on January 20, 2007, at 19:21:35

In reply to Sorry about the above post, posted by Deneb on January 20, 2007, at 18:54:49

>>>Do people think I'm a bad person for writing those things? Am I a bad person because I feel those things?

THe short answer....No. (not that anyone would be able to answer Yes to that question anyways without being uncivil - but that's irrelevant). Do you?

>>>>>>Am I a bad person when I get upset after people do certain things and I'm so upset I think bad things like that?

Nope. We can *think* and *feel* whatever we want. However, we can't *say* everything we want. At least not without consequences. There's interpersonal consequences (both good and bad) to everything, IRL and through the internet. On babble, there's also consequences to being uncivil.
As a reverse, am *I* a bad person for being upset when "people do certain things"? Thinking and feeling bad things are one thing, pressuring or blaming are another.

>>>>>For example: Was I a bad person for wanting to kill myself after getting blocked?

Nope. If I had to put myself in that situation (if I got blocked), I'd have to really push myself to not just see the block/blocker as "making" me self-harm -- because blocks don't just occur for no reason. I would have to try and consider my own part in bringing about the block, and assume responsibity for my part (even if it's illness), and own my own feelings and behaviours. There's more choices before suicide attempts.

>>>>>>Is it OK to tell people at the hospital that I tried to kill myself because I was upset over being blocked? Or should I lie because it's manipulative to say those things?

First, you know that no one here would want you to go through that, right. But, yep, IRL you can always say what your perspective is. I don't see how it could be manipulative. Unless hypothetically (and I'm gonna get creative here) you fabricated a suicide attempt, and blamed the "meanness" of Babble hoping that someone would look into having the site shut down, or something like that - I guess.

You don't need to apoligize for asking those questions. It's always better to ask before reacting. Deneb, you should re-read your really insightful post above (the one to sunnydays). Maybe it will help re-clarify the thing that people were upset over in this thread. OR what if you also brought these questions into a session and did a back and forth with your pdoc? You may find it useful in your commitment to learning how to not let the same thing happen ever again. You said you're used to talking to her quite a bit now, right? [kudos on that by the way :)] What do you think?

blove El


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