Posted by muffled on January 1, 2007, at 20:40:41
In reply to Re: disempowerment » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on January 1, 2007, at 19:20:29
> I got frustrated, because I sensed a contradiction on your part- I sensed that you wish to get feedback from users, but that you also wish to limit decision making. It is equally frustrating that we are very rarely privy to your rationale for making changes. Even major, dramatic changes are often announced like: I'm trying out a new blocking system; or, what do the deputies think? or, let's try this out for now.
> If you could explain your reasoning a little bit better, it would help ME to understand whether you are more flexible in terms of some policy changes vs. others. It would help me understand what kind of data and feedback informs your decisions. It would help me understand that making suggestions on the Administration board is not an exercise in futile whining, but that our suggestions are considered seriously.Fayroe, can I try to rephrase this and you tell me if this is what you are saying?
Bob, you ask for feeback sometimes but seldom appear to take the info we give into your descion making. So why ask for feedback at all? Its frustrating.
Decisions seem to just appear magically, with no reasons given as to how you have come to that decision. We would like to know how they came about..
If we knew more about you and your thinking processes Bob, we might better be able to communicate with you. Cuz at this point it is very difficult. You are very closed, and confusing as a result.So Fayroe, are you asking Bob to explain his rationale as to specific decisions he makes?
I guess I a little confused here too.
MuufledFOR BOB:
>But it's not a contradiction to want input on a decision and also still to want to make that decision oneself.*of course, but we often wonder whether you even take input into consideration AT ALL. Or are we just flapping our gums? Or typing our keys I guess I should say.
>Better to ask for input than not.
**I don't think this is true AT ALL Bob. I think you should ONLY ask for input if you are seriously going to consider it.....otherwise it results in...frustration...
But asking for input, and considering it seriously,
doesn't necessarily mean delegating authority.
**Now tell me where THE HELL did THAT come from?????????????
Nobody said NOTHING bout delegating authority!!!!!!
We just want to be heard and acknowleged in more verbose and concrete ways. We want to be included informationally into why you do the things you do here. HOW your decisions were made. And WHY do we? Cuz we care about this site, but we see things that come up again and again, and are hurtful, all in the name of not hurting......
Muffled
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