Posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 9, 2006, at 11:39:36
In reply to Re: survey, posted by Dr. Bob on December 9, 2006, at 2:48:36
> > Maximum block length is an issue which affects the safety of all psycho-babblers.
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> Thanks for designing this study :-) but I'm not sure it's the direction I'd like to go in right now. Referendums don't always lead to good policy, though surveys may be useful in certain circumstances.I would not make any policy recommendations. I would only make information available.
> > I think it's crucial that all babblers have the opportunity to respond to this (even currently blocked babblers).
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> What about babblers who've chosen to leave the site?What if they've chosen to leave because of a perception that blocks and other punitive measures were the work of a monarch/oligarchy and they felt powerless to effect any changes?
> > the people who choose to go out to dinner and post on the Admin board may not be representative of psycho-babblers in general.
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> True, but those who respond to surveys may not be, either...I think we would get MANY more responses than people who can fit around a dinner table.
Perhaps you are sqeamish about this because you don't want all psychobabblers to participate in policy changes. Perhaps you are only comfortable eliciting ideas from a select few. Perhaps you are afraid that giving people a vote will somehow empower the masses and cause instability.
I guess it would help me understand the administration better if I could understand the motivations for controlling information that could help us understand where the typical psychobabbler "stands" on the issue of maximum block length.
Are you committed to making this place "work" for the vast majority, or for only a select few, or perhaps only for Dr. Bob?
> > Would it be possible for you send out a survey to all users?
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> Yes, but what about users who don't want to receive it?Don't open the babble-mail. Simple.
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> > until we know how babblers feel about this, we can debate in circles
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> Even if we knew, we might continue...A debate cannot exist in a vacuum of information.
A debate cannot exist when we are all talking fiction
A debate cannot exist when the debaters have no powerBut perhaps this place is not about debate and making things 'right' for the majority. Perhaps Dr. Bob intends to make things 'right' for some selection of people. Perhaps Dr. Bob is only concerned with himself.
"It's not about me it's about you."
actions speak louder than words. Why not give us some tools to make changes around here? One such tool might be data on block-length caps.
I have no predictions about how that survey would turn out. I have no vested interest in my own personal blocking punishment. I want to follow the crowd. I just don't know what the crowd thinks about it, because the only people who are participating are arguing for change (it's rarer for a person to start a thread like "Let's keep the status quo. Psycho-babble is working just fine for me!")
So?
I heard a great quote on TV last night.
"Without an agitator, we're just left with a washtub full of dirty drawers."
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