Posted by Estella on August 20, 2006, at 11:19:57
In reply to Lou's rsponse to Estella's post, posted by Lou Pilder on August 20, 2006, at 9:32:25
When did you first arrive at babble, lou? I'm interested in whether people escalate before or after blocks...
I remember... You used to ask for determinations and the like quite a lot... To the point where... One would have a full time job keeping up with them. I would bet that that is why... You didn't get responses for all of them.
> What you will see is that it is a condition for me to be a member here, that I accept that statements that have the potential to arrouse antisemitic feelings are considered to be civil by DR. Hsiung.
That is one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it would be that you might just need to accept that statements that YOU feel have the potential to arrouse antisemetic feelings are not thought to have the potential to arrouse antisemstic feelings by OTHERS including Dr Bob.
Other people don't see it that way, Lou.
Can you see things from their perspective?
>I will be expelled if I do not accept it.
You will be expelled by Bob if you break the civility guidelines. Whether you choose to break them or not is up to you.
With respect to the community... People are pretty good at giving support to those who are here seeking support and to those who are here to support others. If you are here to persuade the community that there have been statements that are likely to arrouse antisemetic feelings then that might be a different matter, however.
Firstly, people might not take kindly to the notion that ANY statements (including those you have cited) are likely to arrouse antisematic feelings. People might be concerned that... You are accusing them of something akin to racism.
I'm sorry that you feel harrassed and intimidated. I think... I think that sometimes you get a bit of a hard time because of your insisting on posting stuff regardless of others feelings. I know that when you requested civility determinations you weren't trying to get people blocked. I know you said that and I believe you. But fact is that some people DID feel persecuted by your doing that and... You continued to do it regardless of their feelings. A consequence of those kinds of decisions is that often people respond in kind and do things despite how we are likely to feel.
It isn't about your being Jewish, Lou.
I wouldn't have known you were Jewish if you hadn't decided to tell me.
Your worrying so much about people persecuting you because of your being Jewish... Seems to lead you to interpret people as persecuting you because of your being Jewish. Self fulfilling prophecy, self confirming bias, people eliciting from others that which they most fear etc.
I'm sorry Lou.
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