Posted by special_k on April 11, 2006, at 20:08:25
In reply to Re: the blocking policies » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on April 11, 2006, at 8:36:57
> 1) I agree with Dr. Bob that if someone's blocked, comes back, and is soon in violation of the civility guidelines for similar infractions, the block should be doubled.
though wouldn't there be exceptions to this? IMHO people are blocked to readily for 'borderline' infractions. And people don't really understand what they are doing wrong (over on politics, for instance).
>If a post is particularly uncivil to another poster, or Dr. Bob, the block should be doubled or tripled as now.
sure, I agree with that. though i also think that Dr Bob is more tolerant for infractions against him (as I think he should be) but when those are stirring up the boards as a whole...
> 2) Each time a poster posts while blocked, the block should be doubled, and not capped at one year.what i like about the one year cap... is that some people who post to mental health sites have severe psychiatric conditions. someone who is off their meds might post some pretty shocking posts and they get blocked for that (rightly so IMO) and they might also make a pain of themself with posting while blocked. but one year is a long time in the greater scheme of things. i like to think that nobody, nobody at all is a 'lost cause'. one year sounds like a pretty long time to me... but if we get one poster here in virtue of that rule... just one poster then IMHO it is worth it.
> 3) If someone is blocked for one thing, then later commits a completely different violation, everything starts over at PBC.that would involve classifying offences. i wondered a bit about that before... whether they could be classified. how fine grained do you want the classification to go? an unasterisked *ss and an unasterisked f*ck two seperate offences or two tokens of the same type (swearing without an asterisk)? how about throwing something else into the mix. being blocked for something on has been asked not to do... is that a seperate type? i just mean that that might be more complicated than you think...
>...I think a lot of anger comes when people don't understand why what they've done wrong is in violation of civility guidelines, or how to phrase an I statement.
yes. it is a lot easier to see how things are more civil in hindsight... it is a lot harder to see that ones post is problematic in the first place (and i would only send it on for someone else to check if i thought it might be problematic). that being said... is it my imagination.... or has be been better with the politics board recently in the sense of warning more blocking less and repeating the time rather than doubling it? or maybe it is just that the board is dying out as people are too terrified to post to it...
> 6) The Please be Sensitive guidelines should be beefed up a bit for those very very few posters who avoid making technical fouls but appear to somehow arouse in others the impulse to commit technical fouls. So that a new rule wouldn't have to be created each time, but a more general "Please be sensitive to the fact that this is causing a great deal of distress." can be instituted. Maybe along with alternative suggestions.
really? a lot of people feel pissed off in response to me... it has been suggested i need to radically alter my posting style or get blocked for a very long time... do you really think this kind of situation happens on the boards? i think sometimes people do try and provoke / get people wound up... i do that a bit on politics i'll admit... yup, i do.
IMO other people need to learn to handle their own responses. i'm not attacking accusing putting down (to the best of my knowledge).
i don't know what to say in response to this... except that it will likely lead to MORE blockings...
> IMHO, longer blocks should be reserved for situations where the poster clearly isn't making an effort to comply with the rules, or the spirit of the rules or where shorter blocks haven't had the desired effect.yeah.
> But on the other hand, longer blocks *are* appropriate for those circumstances. Even if it's just for repeatedly saying *ss without blocking out the a.if you have been asked and you persist... sure.
if you don't get it... (for example a lot of people get a warning for that on admin or social or wherever. after a while they discover the wring board and they don't appreciate that you can't swear over there. i think that is an honest mistake...
i still think the majority of block lengths are too harsh.i still think the majority of blocks... one week would be better.
it would be a slap...
but it wouldn't inspire the rage that the present system evokes.
that being said...
yeah i guess some offences do merit longer blocks.
IMHO they would be the exception rather than the rule, however...
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