Posted by Larry Hoover on March 17, 2006, at 9:58:22
In reply to No automated filtering, posted by itsme2003 on March 17, 2006, at 8:21:02
> When I first entered into this discussion I suggested automated filters as part of the solution. I now agree that they will not work here.
I very much appreciate your saying so.
> I still strongly prefer a non-mandatory system such as I discussed at http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060225/msgs/620768.html.
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> I could live with a mandatory system that was simple, non-punitive, allowed a "reasonable person" interpretation of the rules, resolved ambiguities in favor of the poster, and was not expansive in its definition of a trigger.I've asked that people consider just that. A mandatory version of your proposal. Just because something has teeth, doesn't predict biting. I've had dogs.....blah blah.
> Larry, I'd like to see a complete proposal of your thoughts on this.
I was afraid to lay out a "grand vision." I already have it, in my head, but I didn't think that was an approach that anyone would consider. Certainly not His Bobness. He has poured so much of himself into this place. Yet, he has also earned his critics.
> Your ideas sound good and if we are to have a mandatory system, I'd like it to be based on the ideas that you have put forth. Truthfuly, it seems like this whole idea of trigger warnings is bogged down and nothing is going to come from this, but I hope for your sake and the sake of many others that something gets done.
I know it looks like I have been trying to force this down people's throats, and for that, I'm sorry. But the truth is much simpler. I was just about ready to go, to go quietly, just not be here any more, like so many before me, when I saw that innocent-sounding question that sparked this massive thread. And I thought, well, I can't have this inside of me and carry it off, unseen. The rest, as they say, is history.
At this juncture, however, I'm leaning very much towards my former position. I have good argument for that.
My disputes in this thread have been tripartate, in three distinct themes. Babble, the administration. Babble, the people. And Bob. And as you have indubitably become aware, those main and the many subordinate issues are very important to me. The only way to address any of it was right out here in front of everybody. I'm sorry if it was a spectacle. But I have confined myself to this forum, these topics, and my feelings. I wouldn't waste my breath, if Babble didn't matter to me.
> I encourage you to not get too discouraged if nothing comes of this. Sometimes it takes ideas a while to sink in and if nothing comes from this now, what has been done here will prepare for some action at some time in the future.
I know. It took me over two years of therapy to even consider that I had PTSD. I know that.
Yet, one must also consider timing, in the context of his own life. And that's what I'll be doing over the immediate future. Considering the timing. I'm leaning very much towards Babble-broken right now. I'm so far into the grey, it is virtually black. I'm already anticipating the snick of the latch, as the door comes to.
And, as I would hope would come from anyone's efforts to address issues of grand importance, I have a new insight into the nature of my particular distress, here at Babble. I'll describe my insight more fully in (a) subsequent post(s). Perhaps, even in a new thread, I don't know. I'm not sure that I even can participate any longer, given my new insight.
I thank you for not bailing on me. I thank you for considering the coherence of my ideas. They're not random. They are anything but products of the moment. I've been thinking about these issues (and discussing it all with my therapist, and anyone else who would listen) ever since I landed here. Please do not mistake my passion for any hint or element of poorly thought out ideas. Anything but.
To all Babblers:
My passion is proportional to my pain. I didn't want this to be about me. I wanted it to be about Babble, the Babble I envision. I am not the perfect speaker for that vision. But, I'm trying to do it, anyway, despite my own frailties. That's why I'm so touchy when someone judges me, in even the slightest way, instead of my ideas. I don't need anyone to tell me I'm hurting. Just leave me be, the spectacle that I am, and attend to the debate. Please.
Lar
poster:Larry Hoover
thread:614568
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060317/msgs/621266.html