Posted by Alan on December 9, 2002, at 21:48:56
In reply to Re: You miss the point, posted by Anyuser on December 9, 2002, at 19:06:30
> > I don't get where you are coming from.
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> I am against PBers going around Dr. Bob and attempting to censor other PBers by ratting them out to the government, or their employers, or their ISP, or anybody else.If the owner of any bboard is not following FDA policies and allowing illegal or unethical behaivor then it should be stopped. It is the only way to keep commercialism out from between the already complicated doctor/patient relationship.
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> >You are contradicting yourself.
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> Not so. I am in favor of FDA information, such as it is, being availble in addition to, but not in lieu of, other sources of information.What? You're in favor of FDA regulation and oversight and guidelines but then you turn around and say but just not in this case? Explain that to me please...
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> > You don't seriously believe do you that a pharmrep isn't directly pedaling by posting to PB?
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> Direct sales would be send me your credit card number and I'll send you my product.
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> >How else could it possibly be characterised?
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> "Mutual support and education." Obviously, a post from an individual without a mood disorder but with a commercial interest in his/her advice is categorically different from advice from somebody with a mood disorder and no commercial interest. One could make similar qualifications about doctors with axes to grind--anti-drug, pro-talk therapy, etc. For that matter, one could make similar qualifications about any poster that gives advice, offers an opinion, makes pronouncements. I think we all ought to be competent to take potential bias into account when listening to what other posters have to say. You, and others, obviously have with respect to pharmrep. The "whom do you trust" issue is complicated, and in any event, I think the issue should be resolved by Dr. Bob blocking comment he doesn't want on his site, and not by other posters acting as vigilantes. How would you like it somebody were so antagonized by your advice on benzos that they tried to rat you out? You wouldn't, and you shouldn't.How interesting your comments are.
The pharmrep is far worse than "direct" pedaling. They are indirect pedaling - going around the ethical guidelines by saying that their schill "doctor friends" are advising them...and then dispensing medical advice implying that this is doctor's advice, not theirs.None of us should have to police this bboard to expose pharmreps for what they are...marketeers. Many are asking for pharmreps advice all of the time. Why might they be doing that? Possibly to get information about what "other" doctors are doing through pharmreps schills? It's still offering medical advice over the internet in a capacity that will be heeded by the most vulnerable and I find the lack of concern for that saftey net lacks compassion and forethought .
My advice comes from my experience with others that are sharing personal experiences. I'm not here with a marketing agenda, profit motive, and I am not a doctor (via pharmreps implicated accomplices in the circle of doctors that they get "face time" with).
I'm not here exclusively or otherwise to promote bzds or AD's or anything else.
That's what differentiates me from pharmreps visting a psych bboard full of potential customers - and I find the whole practice outrageous.
poster:Alan
thread:8456
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