Posted by Lou Pilder on October 30, 2012, at 5:03:53
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-natgeominni, posted by PrettyLady on October 30, 2012, at 2:22:17
> Uhm. Lou, I don't really appreciate your fear mongering. I have been trying to deal with these issues without medical attention and my life has fallen apart. Please understand that I'm just trying to be well. I had this discussion with a spiritual friend of mine today and she was explaining that perhaps this is the lifeboat that God is giving me, and not to be foolish and try to let mania and suicidal tendencies run wild in the name of "faith". We have faith, but that doesn't mean we don't drink water or eat food because we think God delivers all things without effort. We have bodies, and they have needs. God helps those who help themselves, and after a long time of suffering, this is how I am coming back to a place of wellness, so I can be of service to other people. I'm very upset by your comment, bc you implying that a mentally ill person taking medication makes them an ungodly person. Clearly you don't have an empathetic heart, because if you could feel for 5 seconds what I feel on a daily basis, you wouldn't be so quick to pass judgement on me.
> I hope and pray that everyone gets what they need in life, including you, which appears to be a clue.
> On a more positive note, for some reason I'm feeling much calmer tonight. Perhaps the med is starting to work. Now I'm all upset bc of the direction this threat has turned but I will report on how I feel tomorrow.
> Lou if you want to do something helpful, say a prayer that I get better, and stop trying to scare a person who is already afraid of life itself.P_L,
You wrote,[...your fear mongering...a spiritual friend of mine..perhaps this is the lifeboat that God is giving me...mania and suicide tendencies...God helps those that help themselves...you implyong...an ungodly person...you don't have an empathetic heart...pass judgement on me...trying to scare a person...].
I am unsure as to what you are wantig to mean here with what you wrote. If you could post answers here to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. If the contnet in the video showed how the brain deals with mind-altering chemicals and the damage the chemical can do to one's brain, how is that {fear mongering} if that is where your statement comes from?
B. If it comes from some other aspect of our discussion, where does it come from?
C.In that you cite what a spiritual friend told you, which God does that friend use as a source of what that friend said to you?
D. By what authority does that friend use to claim that the God that they are referring to says that God helps those that help themselves?
E. In that you are thinking that perhaps there is a lifeboat from God, then perhaps *not* also could be a possibility, whatever the boat is that you think is the boat?
F.Are you aware that psychotropic drugs can increase suicidal and mania tendancies?
G. Are you aware that there is an over abundance of scientific evidence that mind-altering drugs could cause one to think of killing themselves and/or others?
H. Do you agree that by having an understanding of the destructive nature that psychotropoic drugs can do to a person's brain and organs, that the knowledge obtained could be used to make a more-informed decision as to take psychotropic drugs or not?
K. Could it be that the God that I give service and worship to is not the same God as the one that your friend gives service and worship to?
L. Does your (spiritual) friend take mind-altering drugs?
M. If that friend is a bible-believing friend, could you ask that friend if he/she knows what the bible prescribes to those that take mind-altering drugs?
N. Also, could you ask that friend if they understand the prescription for healing that the bible gives?
P. Could you please not post statements here that are lies about me accusing me falsley of mongering fear and being an ungodly person and not having an empathetic heart and passing judgment on you and trying to scare a person? Those are lies about me and have the potential to damage me emotionally and psychologically. They are nothing more than hatred couched in a venue that your "Dr Bob" allows to be spewed upon me here in a collaberation with you and others that could destroy, which is an unsound mental-health practice and could lhave detrimental effects on the one's that harbor such hatred in their hearts.
Lou
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