Posted by schleprock on October 28, 2012, at 12:39:39
In reply to Re: Academic exercise. » SLS, posted by Dinah on October 28, 2012, at 10:09:54
> Is it really necessary to say the words "mentally ill" if they so upset Lou? I don't see it as a negative thing, but clearly Lou does.
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> If it ever appears that someone isn't aware of Lou's history with the board, perhaps it could just be pointed out that the Rider on the white horse gave Lou a mission to save Babblers from the lake of fire? I'm sure people would understand that his actions are based on that motivation.
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> Did I get that right, Lou? Did the Rider send you to Babble for that purpose? I'd really like to know, in order to understand you better. Besides, I've never particularly minded apocalyptic religious visions.
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> Right or wrong, religious experiences of that type are usually seen as a sign of mental illness in this society. I always say that I'd make a pretty rotten prophet, because I'd be most likely to take myself to a mental institution upon receiving a visitation of that sort.
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> But if the facts as Lou understands them are made known to those who seem to attribute negative motivations to Lou's behavior, people can draw their own conclusions about his negative views of psych meds, and his attributing a good deal to antisemetism, and his conclusions about the motivations of posters and Dr. Bob?
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> Not that I think his charge by the Rider to minister to this group absolves him from the responsibility of being a civil member of this community. I'd tend to think that he'd have a greater responsibility since he would be, in effect, a representative of the Rider. I'm reasonably sure that a just God would make sure of his accusations before making them.
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> This is why I suggested that Lou runs any posts he finds questionable by a Rabbi he trusts before accusing posters of fostering hatred against Jews.This is similar to how Foucault defined mental illness. I've certainly forgot the exact wording, but it's more of an "unclarity" than irrationality. The delusional are still very rational (he uses the example of a patient who thought he was made of glass. He acted very rationally despite this untruth, e.g. moving very carefully, trying to avoid contact with other objects that could shatter him etc.) The role of the doctor is not to make the person "sane", but rather to bring them to a clarity of themselves (the metaphor of "light" was heavily used.) One method of cure he spoke of was that at one point doctors would go as far as theatrically indulging the patient's illness so they patient may gradually come to see their own absurdity.
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