Posted by bleauberry on November 23, 2009, at 18:37:08
In reply to Add anything to help with the EMSAM wait...., posted by Monica L on November 22, 2009, at 16:16:39
I don't know. It's really hard. Damn, holiday time and feeling so bad. Man oh man can I relate. My heart hurts reading your post.
If you can manage another 10 days, maybe go for that? If you feel the same then, I personally would ditch it. If anyone gave me a lecture on how the drug needs more time, I would tell them to go to...well, keep it nice...go jump in a lake.
If you aren't feeling any improvement at two weeks, the odds for success...clinically and scientifically proven in several pubmed studies...are already plummeting.
Did you feel this bad before you started? I mean, most people don't talk about it enough, but there is such a thing as deterioration after starting a new med. It could be ensam is making you feel worse? In clinical studies when people withdraw prematurely due to side effects...well, some of those withdrawals were because they got worse. It was called side effects. But the facts were, they were direct effects. The drug made the person worse. That's no side effect.
Just a possibility to consider.
In the years since Deprenyl has been tried as an antidepresant, I have seen ZERO people find it effective for any length of time. When it was reformulated into the Ensam skin patch version, I have seen I think 3 strong success stories, maybe 4 ho-hum not satisfactory stories, and maybe 12 miserable failures.
I have no idea why doctors would go for Ensam when the kings Parnate and Nardil cannot be beat. Even after 5 decades, nothing can top their track record. That's just the way it is. Screw the diet thing. Take a drug with a very long and very strong track record.
Since you have felt jumpy and irritable thus far with ensam, that alone tells me it is doing the wrong stuff for you.
My two cents.
I do wish you a smooth day and wish to heck there was something any of us could do to improve things right now. The best I can do is say I'm with you, don't let it get worse, stop if you have to. You would not be the first person to say you felt better after stopping ensam. All I know is I felt irritable and crappy on it, a lot better beginning the third day after stoppin it. Would it have ever worked if I had stuck with it? Do I really care? I'm alive and doing better with other things. I wouldn't have been if I didn't stop. I can name several drugs that would have killed me if I didn't abort them.
So you've been on a lot of drugs? And in the hospital? And never been on parnate or nardil? I don't get that. You were a highly qualified candidate for those a long time ago.
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