Posted by Fivefires on January 5, 2009, at 13:16:50
In reply to Re: How high are the chances venlafaxine might wor » glennb, posted by Onestone on December 31, 2008, at 15:44:45
Hey Onestone (glennb, all of the above) ...
I'm sittin' in the back row, aka down at the bottom.
> Hi, again!
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> Sorry it's taken me so long to reply - I was away over Christmas and without access to a sufficiently private PC.
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> > To answer your question, they do not know why venlaxafine might work for you given that drugs a, b, c, did not. As far as I know, all these drugs work slightly differently and the fact that any one might work for a given person may actually be a side effect of the medication rather than the intended effect. This is intensely frustrating for people like us and I totally empathize with your frustration.
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> Thanks!
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> >I recently trialed venlaxafine and had no response to it. That doesn't mean you won't. I'm now trialing Cymbalta and had the same initial reaction you did when the next doctor suggested it. When done with this trial, I will have been on every SSRI/SNRI except lexapro. But it kind of behooves us to jump through the hoops and try all this garbarge looking for what works for us. So again, to answer your question 'why will this work' nobody really knows and the more honest doctors will tell you that.
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> OK. I suspect my new doc will admit this readily when I ask her.
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> >Your last paragraph sounds like you are having suicidal thoughts. PLEASE seek immediate help if you are.
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> That's not quite the way it is. I've been seeking help for over a decade, now, so far with significant, but insufficient effect. It's not the "storm and sunshine" that somebody described in another thread, but a continuous cold, damp drizzle over several decades. I decided back then that I would go for suicide if things didn't get better, rather than endure the misery till I die of something else. I reject the notion that suicide is always bad. If there's nothing to be gained from life, why tolerate the pain and suffering?
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> I'm not there yet, and anyhow, now isn't a good time for me to commit suicide. I suppose it's a bit like having a baby, there's never a good time for it. ;-)
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> >Also, please understand you are not entirely alone in your suffering.
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> Hah! Somebody contemplating suicide is utterly alone. He is treated worse than an armed robber, possibly worse than a "terrorist", being liable to imprisonment without trial, without due process, and to being subject to arbitrary bodily violation, basically torture, whilst confined. Even on this relatively free board, the practicalities may not be discussed. I'm not aware of any place on the internet where free discussion about suicide can happen, so I'd have to do my research alone and surreptitiously.
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> Maybe I wouldn't have the courage to go through with it. But if I were to, I would be utterly alone. I wouldn't even be able to hold a last supper with my friends, or make arrangements for my body to be dealt with. Yes, I feel sore about this.
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> >Good luck with the trial. If it doesn't work out move on to the next thing.
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> Thanks! I'm not sure how much more I want to go along with this, though. I'm exhausted.
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> >By the way, it makes sense that tramadol would make you feel better. I use oxycodone to ease my pain, opiates work, they are as the other poster mentioned dangerous.
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> I've been giving Wikipedia quite a battering in this thread. :-)
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> >You don't want an opiate addiction on top of refractory depression.You are here :)
Don't you think the above statement and its response are like politics, a topic to be be discussed privately. I don't like it, but I fear it somewhat necessary. There are many details that would come into play here. Both my docs know of the others' regimens and have n e v e r discussed it and I don't think they want to or they want me to. Weird .. We all know what we know not to say.
I am on oxyco for c-spine injury, from abusive husband. He didn't like my PMDD, so literally threw me away. Now out of my life, I am alone, which isn't so good, but better than aforementioned.
Pdoc refilled Xanax and Xanax-XR (This is the horse, and depression is the cart.) as per regimen, but, afa the 75mg Effexor-XR I'm on, my bag contained 450mg! (He should have recalled the mania it caused!?) I don't recall just now what he said when I called him about prescribing this w/o seeing me or telling me. The day I took 450, I lost the day .. like a black out. Friend said I got a lot done that day. haha? Today I've taken none. Not sure what to do. Guess call pdoc.(?) You can't break the 150s of which I have two containers :-(
Called my gyn and said 'pls save me from these cr*z* p**ch do*s'. My call was returned saying they'd be glad to take over my meds.
I empathize w/ you very much. I too, apologize, I've not posted often, or, for some time.
I've been 'bedridden' for most of 2008, awaiting the arrival of this year.
It happens today I feel the winds of change; don't know where from, but just feel 'em.
Who are we if we do not allow ourselves to be individuals. This is what I'm feeling today; gratitude for our differences, and deserve respect for them. They make livin' interesting.
It's been a while since you posted here too? Or maybe time is moving slow for me. (I look above for some date. Not a calendar in site.)
Maybe you are somewhere else here; another board.
I think there are prob' a few here that recall an old thread on Effexor-XR that went on forever and ever and ever, and whoa ... I had to get off of it, was just repetitious and kept on goin'.
I think now, at this time in my life, it isn't a stand-alone med for me; my POV. Altho', my pdoc doesn't want me on the net and doesn't like me to suggestttt, so ... won't augment it yet! It's been a month and a half since I've seen pdoc and he is hesitant, like think said above talking about seroquel, when I'm kinda' anti- anti-psychs. Yes, TY to those above who suggested some diff' ideas.
Hey, what about the new SNRI? I've not heard much raving about it. Then again, haven't left my place for a month. Yeah really.
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> No, but it might be preferable as an alternative - or perhaps there might be some optimum combination of the two.Yes, the statement above is the one to which I refer above.
May the winds of change bring some answers our way.
best wishes, 5f
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