Posted by yxibow on December 1, 2008, at 13:52:13
In reply to Re: Fastest acting sleeping drug..?, posted by Vincent_QC on November 30, 2008, at 11:53:55
just ask for Trazodone (Desyrel) drug...it come in a pill that you can split in 2 on one side and 3 on the other one....very srange form of pill to be honnest
Only one maker of that I know of is making it any more, the ones I've gotten when I took it lately were a oblong shaped tablet with three ruler marks that could not possibly be broken that easily. But could just be the phamacy. Anyhow, Trazodone is a pretty icky way to sleep in my opinion, it is sort of overpowering and makes you stagger or faint.
Amitriptyline is a rather sedating TCA and with due caution, 10 mg per night can be used.
It will be extremely sedating the first dose I imagine no matter what if you haven't been exposed to TCAs/APs/strong antihistamines.
> Zopiclone (Zimovane, Imovane), stay more than 5-6 hours in the blood. Slow onset of action, not very good because you will be a lot tired the day after...very addictive too...
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> Eszopiclone (Lunesta), stay 6 hours in the blood, also not very good for the hunghover feeling the day after....very addictive...
>The above is the only one approved for dosing for more than 7 days or however long they're typically approved for. Lunesta, while not "addictive" -- none of the things that you mention are "addictive" for people who are not addicts.
It may be semantic, but I consider addictive use to be recreational or some form of pathology that may not be in the patient's hands, genetics, etc...
.....but is not the use of agents at a particular prescribed dose which are "habit forming", which basically means over a short or long period, of unknown length...
...they become less effective or lose their "zing", but the person keeps taking the same dose without increasing it on okay with a doctor (yes I have a problem now with getting off of a benzodiazepine, but there was, and still is a particular case by case use for it considering how rare this one is that I'm dealing with my life, but anyhow)....
....or possibly order it somehow on the streets or purloin it or whatever. I'm not trying to single out addicts, by the way by describing this, it is often genetically inclined, there is physical habituation, psychological habituation (e.g. with cigarettes, something in one's mouth, reaching for your matches, the patters one did), etc. I'm just hyper inflating what could be a scenario.
Anyhow, enough of that, Lunesta is approved for more medium term sleep use, and I would imagine though it isn't approved so, its precursor is also, although the new racemer may be a bit different. Ambien is for a much shorter period, although even that is sometimes dosed for a month or so.There's also Ramelteon but that's pretty hit and miss, its supposedly much more powerful than melatonin in its targeting of receptors. It is not in the "habit forming" category.
Melatonin itself is something I would be careful with, the highest dose I saw was 5mg, and boy did I have some wierd night effects and nightmares.
It's a hormone, so that's the caution.
-- tidings
Jay
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