Posted by liliths on May 30, 2008, at 12:34:16
In reply to hydrocodone or tramadol for depression, posted by shellie on June 4, 2000, at 23:41:59
this is such an old thread I have no idea if you're even still here... but that said, I think it's important to know that you are not alone. That small doses of opiates in some people are an excellent anti-depressant without experiencing any of the 'addictive' qualities usually associated with pain killers. There are a lot of studies, articles etc on the web confirming this, yet most pdocs are terrfied to prescribe them.
My pdoc had me on hydrocodone for over 5 years... I never became addicted... never needed to up the dose and even went off or took less at times. Then the state stepped in over my licensing and forced him to take me off them. And my pdoc, being quite pissed off, seemed to blame me for it... I guess I was the easier available target - making a great case of transference LOL
yet they're the only drug which helped... whether it augmented whatever else I was taking or what, I haven't a clue... I only know that battling my depression without them is an arduous task indeed and that using whatever I have left over from dentists etc doesn't help the same way because of the lack of continuity... that and probably the fear and desperation of knowing what is waiting when I run out undermines me and keeps me from accumulating any time to undo my now deeply ingrained depressive habits.
Tramadol didn't have the same effect for me.. I seemed to be able to take amazing amounts of that stuff without feeling anything...
anyway, that this has showed up recently suggests we are still out there and still not being treated properly... we exist. And as it was stated in an earlier post, many AD's are 'addicting' - requiring higher doses and have terrible withdrawals. The criteria should be whatever works and that said, I realize that for many people, they could easily be abused... but not everyone responds that way and it's a damn shame that I sit here contemplating suicide instead of life (it's been about 2 years since I was prescribed it by my pdoc) Circumstances have not been kind, but worse, was that I had no arsenal for coping with them after a while... it became easier to just stay down, since every time I lifted my head, it seemed I'd get hit by something else.
I'm tired now.. I'm old and I'm tired... it's no longer worth it to fight. Yet the fact that I'm still here suggests I must have a very strong will to live, despite my depression.
frustrating... and I'm ridiculous enough to wish for a terminal disease... well at least I still find some humor in my situation... at the moment anyway
BTW, someone mentioned opium tea... can it be purchased online legally? I'm not asking for a URL - I know that's against the rules... just wondering if it would be worth it to try and do a search on my own. I once had some painkillers I ordered from overseas confiscated by customs and I received the empty box with some kind of warning in it... now that was scary!!
Bright Blessings to all
namaste,
liliths> I take a small amount of hydrocodone when I am very depressed (usually premenstrally), or when I feel stomach pain. It always helps with the depression. I have been using it for about two years, and have never increased the dose. My therapist and psydoc think this is very bad. I can't figure out, really why, since I don't seem to crave more and it makes me feel better. (I am also on an MAOI). I don't seem to have addiction tendencies. Does anyone else do this? With or without your doc's blessing?
> Also there was a thread about a year ago about a woman taking an MAOI and tramadol? Does anyone have experience with this? Does anyone's doctor proscribe this? I am tired of depression and I'm tired of trying new meds that are either ineffective or have side effects and the hydrocodone works with no side effects. Whats the problem?
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