Posted by Jedi on June 19, 2007, at 1:40:28
In reply to 11th day on Nardil.. a bit confused, but ok so far, posted by girlnterrupted78 on June 18, 2007, at 19:04:37
Hi,
A lot of your social confidence at this point is probably coming from the clonazepam. I have taken Nardil with clonazepam for most of the past ten years. Most people starting Nardil take at least three and sometimes six weeks at an effective dose before it starts to kick in. When it did kick in for me it was like being struck by lightning. There was nothing subtle about it. One day I felt like sh*t, the next day I felt great. None of the 45+ combinations of ADs and augmentors has ever done that for me. Some people, myself included will get an initial feeling of euphoria from Nardil. This can best be described as hypomania. If you have been depressed for some time, this can be a very intoxicating feeling, but it is not the true antidepressant response to Nardil. This hypomanic stage is usually shortlived; don't misinterpret the loss of this feeling for a loss of efficacy in the medication.Nardil with clonazepam has been the only combination to bring me out of at least three major depressions.
Good Luck,
Jedi
> I'm on my 11th day on Nardil.
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> It is working, but I am very confused, because unfortunately (or fortunately, whatever that might be) I began taking klonopin 2 weeks before Nardil, just to "be safe" during the washout period when I tapered off Celexa. I just didn't trust myself without any meds and I had to keep my job.
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> So now I don't know what results come from the Klonopin and what is the Nardil really doing.
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> All I know at the moment is that I definitely feel better. I feel a lot more confident, a lot more assertive, and my sense of humor is (partially) back. I really couldn't smile, let alone laugh, before. Now I'm laughing my a-off at work and I'm getting positive responses from people, whereas before I used to have a dead-face and would hardly ever smile.
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> I am not in a perfect state yet (the way I was when Celexa peaked 5 years ago) but I can recognize similar antidepressant effects that make me feel a lot better. Emotional strength is one of them. I used to let people walk all over me and I didn't have the strength to say something. Now I don't. The other day, I did tell a coworker pretty calmly to f-off (not with those words, of course) when he was being a jerk, and it was so well-said that he couldn't say much back.
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> I'm still on 45 mgs. I'm going to try to go up to see if that improves things.
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> I wonder though, is it normal to feel a bit of a response so fast with such low dose? I've read people who've reacted to it until the 6th week and on higher doses. I'm wondering why I am feeling relief so fast.. or maybe it's the klonopin? But the klonopin is not supposed to make you assertive/emotionally strong, is it?
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> Oh well.. confusion will reign until I up the dose or maybe I'll do a few days trial w/o klonopin and see how I feel.
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> I also seem to lose my equilibrium at times. Sometimes I'm standing at the subway station, and I fall to the side and have to hold on to the wall. It doesn't feel too bad, because the feeling is accompanied by emotional relief, so it doesn't bother me. By emotional relief I mean something like.. a 3rd layer of skin has been added to me. I used to be so sensitive, (what you might call thin skinned) but so bad, to the point that it felt as if I had 3rd degree burns on my skin and anything would hurt/bother me. So this added layer of skin feels great because things don't bother me so much or get to me the way they used to.
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> Anyway, any comments are welcome/appreciated
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