Posted by willyee on May 5, 2007, at 13:53:10
In reply to Re: And about CBT, posted by football on May 5, 2007, at 12:42:20
> > CBT is the biggest joke in the world (only not very funny). It's just a way of blaming the patient, you're not thinking positive thoughts, your depression is your own fault. And Dr. Burns' absurd chapters on overcoming shame are ridiculious and cruel. You have a lot of shame, go out and do things that give you more shame. Yeah and why not if you break every bone in your body except two toes, cure your broken bones by breaking those two as well? He's an idiot. Cecilia
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> Go to google scholar and search it. It has been proven to be very effective.The only problem i have with cbt is if the industry is to present us with the belief that were dealing with a chemical imbalance of some sort,and justify drugs which otherwise would be illegal for a bad mood,then thats one thing.
But on that same note they also recomend that talk therapy being implemented,there are very few physical illness that use talk as a therputic option.
Now i dont disvalue it,im sure plain and simple a lot of people from the disease need some spoiled time,they deserve it,lot of people stay quiet and live a strong life never complaining etc,
Not limiting it to that scenerio,i can certainly see the value in opening up to someone who is there to listen to you and not judge and offer advice that might actualy pretain to truly coping with the illness opposed to what family memembers and the like sometimes do with the "snap out of it"
I just dont believe its a actual vital treatment option as a medication might be in most cases,some people live good lives,and are limited to enjoying them because of pyhsical conditions that hault it.I dont know not sure how to word it best,i just get a little frustrated when anyone gets almost offened when a patient is on medication without therapy.They make a face like the person is insane.
Logicaly just my opinion but the two contradict themselves,so i dont see how it is at certain docs required.
Also some people can afford one co payment a month,and have to choose,id love to go to therapy,i dont have the option of 2 co payments,so having to choose one i choose medication managment,yet im perscuted from time to time for not seeing a therapist,lol money talks i cant get in with my looks i tried that and was escorted by security.
I think people are very defensive about treatments when they work for them,be it a certain class of medication,a technique etc,and i dont think a person inncently commenting about it realises this sometimes.This causes tension and is why i try to adapt the attitude of hey,if it helps preach it,love it,just dont push it.
Were all pulling straws,i hope everyone who deals with it finds a solid rock to grab instead,i wish everyone well.
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