Posted by jerrympls on May 22, 2005, at 1:23:16
In reply to Re: ECT failure?, posted by 4WD on May 21, 2005, at 22:00:51
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> > > Jerry:
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> > > What exactly does opiate treatment do? Does it address anxiety, or give people energy and motivation, or what? I would figure that opiates would knock me out and have me sleeping all day.
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> > > Bob
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> > For me, opiate therapy helps tremendously with:
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> > - Social fears/anxiety
> > - General Anxiety
> > - Motivation (apathy, lethargy)
> > - Anhedonia
> > - Energy
> > - Mood improvement ( better general sense of well-being)
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> > I know many people with treatment-resistant depression who resort to self-medicating with opiates because they are the only meds that help them feel "normal" or close to it.
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> > It depends on how you respond to opiates. Some opiates put me to sleep and some - like hydrocodone (opiate in Vicodin) acts more like a stimulant. My doc tried me on Oxycontin first and that really made me foggy and sleepy.
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> > I take 5mg 4x daily. I do not feel a "high" or extreme euphoria. I just feel closer to "normal." I have not had any problems with abuse or tolerance.
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> > I always like to add that opiate treatment is not a cure-all. But, it's what works for me right now until something better comes along.
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> > Jerry
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> I was one of those self medicaters. Hydrocodone made me enjoy life. I wanted to go plant a garden. I liked to work the crossword puzzle. I liked to clean the house. I even enjoyed working on my taxes!
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> Unfortunately, I couldn't control my use. I didn't take 5mg. I took 30mg. And when it started to wear off, I wanted some more. In the past year or so, I got my use down to once or twice a month, but I still took the large amounts. I didn't just want to feel okay. I wanted to feel super! And it worked. But then more and more often, a day of use would be followed by a week of severe severe depression. So I had to quit.
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> I wondered if you have an issue with the acetominophen in the Vicodin. I always set limits for myself about how much I would take because I was afraid of the liver consequences. I think, though, if you don't use alcohol it's not nearly as much of an issue.
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> I'm glad you found something that works for you.
> I'm also envious that you can take it and I can't. Oh well.
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> Marsha
>Marsha - I take a form of hydrocodone that doesn't contain acetometaphen called HYCODAN. I take 5mg 4xdaily = 20mg. Sure, there have been times I've wanted to take more to get more of a euphoric feeling - but something stops me - which is unusual because I come from an alcoholic family. So, one would assume I'd be addiction prone. But I've never abused any substance.
I do hope you find something that works for you - and I have faith you will.
Jerry
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