Posted by svevo1922 on December 4, 2001, at 17:38:45
In reply to Is Anafranil (Cloimipramine) good for sleep?, posted by rod on December 1, 2001, at 8:38:21
hi.
if you're concerned about weight gain, you might want to avoid clomipramine (anafranil). a couple of weeks ago i wrote a long post to the "anafranil...oh lord" thread discussing my experience with clomipramine.
for some people, including myself, clomipramine does not assist sleep; i don't know if it's actually keeping me awake (other medications may be doing that) but it certainly doesn't help me get to sleep and in the morning i almost always feel tired. (actually even now, i still hate clomipramine so much that i "forget" to take it -- it's just too much effort to get up and walk across the room and get the bottle -- and i end up taking it in the morning.).
the grogginess in my case is often exacerbated by taking a very small dose of a benzodiazepam, lorazepam (ativan) (suggested by my pdoc, sonata and ambien didn't work, and estazolam was sometimes too sedating) and hydrocodone (for a very painful musculoskeletal problem -- also approved, by my neurologist).
i hasten to add that i am lucky to have no tendency to substance abuse; from time to time i ask my doctor why some of the medications i take or have taken are controlled substances because i simply can't imagine why anyone would want to feel this way for RECREATIONAL purposes. not my idea of a good time at all. too small a dose? a vagary of my individual body chemistry? anhedonia? i don't intend to find out.
for the time-being, i'm trying to think of anafranil administration as a mild form of chemotherapy. but it upsets me no end to have this medication bloat me up the way it does.
among other things, it makes me resemble my mother, a woman who i do not like and who gained a huge amount of weight several years ago. the difference is that she pigged out for at least a year eating a quart of haagen daz every night (this is what she says) after quitting smoking when everyone told her to be careful about weight gain. now she wonders why she has developed diabetes and insists her eating habits had nothing to do with it -- it's genetic, she says -- although no one in my family has had type ii diabetes.
if i have to look like a whale, it would have been nice at least to have had the opportunity to stuff myself into it. i know that the fat/obese lobby has problems with people always assuming that fat people have no control, but it is sometimes a correct observation. and i hate that some people probably assume a similar lack of control of me.
time to try to squeeze into the pants that are usually too big.
> Anyones experience with it is welcome.
> I am taking 40mg of Celexa (Citalopram) and 30mg Tolvon (Mianserin, tetracyclic) at bedtime. I want to get rid of Tolvon (good for sleep, but makes depression worse), and do not know if I should start Remeron (bacause of weight gain). So I am searching for something else.
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> thanks
> rod
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thread:85719
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20011202/msgs/85987.html