Posted by kazoo on May 12, 2001, at 0:13:38
In reply to Re: Whats... and Drug Seeking Behavior » kazoo, posted by dougb on May 11, 2001, at 17:05:54
> Are you a doctor? or how do you arrive at above supposition?
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A definition is needed here:An "opiate" is any set of various SEDATIVE narcotics which dulls the senses and induces relaxation or torpor; inducing sleep or sedation; soporific; causing dullness or apathy; deadening.
Pay particular attention to the word "deadening" then ask yourself how "deadening" the senses can, or would, lift someone from depression, which does a fine job of deadening the senses on its own.
If you thought unconventionally, you may fool yourself into believeing that the soporific effect may "lessen" the doldrums of depression, but that's not a judicious or wise approach given the addictive nature of the opiate family.
Over dinner the other night, I asked a psychiatrist from the Yale Psychiatric Clinic (YPI) whether he would prescribe an "opiate" to relieve depression. Without looking up, he said "No, that's ludicrous." I then asked him, "Even if the patient requested this giving sound reasons?" And his answer was "*Especially* if the patient requested this, reasons or not, it's just NOT DONE."
> My GP told me that he prescribes 'off-label' every day, He says that many off label uses of meds do not make it into the PDR due to economic reasons
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What drugs are you talking about? Using RETIN-A as an anti-wrinkle cream instead of its indicated use for 'acne vulgaris'? You don't say which drugs he does this with? I've yet to encounter a doctor who does this, so you must be one of the lucky ones who has a doctor who does this sort of off-beat thing. How lucky can you get?
> Do you mean, withdrawal, constantly seeking better alternatives, inability to get off of meds, constant increase of dosage and rapidly acquired tolerance?
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Does the term "doctor shopping" mean anything to you? Those ADDICTED to optiates have to CHASE FOR DOPE via DOCTOR SHOPPING and with the right amount of cash, there are plenty of them out there more than willing to oblige the hopelessly addicted, BUT DEPRESSED (!), individual.Opitates are not used for depression. To even think such a thing is an insult to the medical profession.
I will tell you one other thing: if you do get optiates to treat your so-called depression, and then you're shut off, you will experience the REAL depression you faked to begin with to get them. So who's fooling whom here? Not me.
kazoo
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