Posted by MarkinBoston on February 15, 2001, at 13:04:41
In reply to Crouching Tiger,Hidden Dragon, posted by missinglynx on February 15, 2001, at 8:22:12
OK, first off, I tried pro-hormones and they made me depressed, even with chrysin. I felt normal within 2 days after stopping. I suspect the chrysin didn't do much and a real estrogen blocker was called for, and there's lots of information around on what and where. Except for Proviron, none are schedule III steroids. Not enough estrogen is very dangerous, besides slowing your gains. Your blood High Density Liproprotein levels will drop and put you at serious risk for a heart attack.
Hormones do not get the attention they deserve by doctors who write scripts for psyc meds. Too much aromataze conversion of testosterone to estradiol could be your whole problem, or another way to look at it is too much test resulting in too much estradiol.
If you've been taking the suppliments for months, then stopping may be rocky, but a sure sign that hormone issues are responsible for mood problems.
Anabolics.com just emailed me about some new, super (expensive), pro-hormone stack that has a good amount of estrogen blocking. Personally, I'd just rather use the real stuff instead of an over-priced "nutritional suppliment" whose only advantage is being legal without a script. I might be twice your age, so getting a script is easier for me than you.
Agitation is common with Effexor and should gradually decline. Your doc can give you smaller pills so that you can back off the dose a little and go up more gradually. People take all kinds of different amounts. I take 225 mg/day, most range from 75-300, some 37.5, others 400. I have never taken an anti-psychotic.
> Hi everyone.I'm new to actually "writing' to this group... I figured Id become more of a participant, rather than just read. I've had the worst "luck' concerning finding any AD that I could tolerate through the first weeks. Even a kids dose of Remeron put me in a stupor. Paxil, nada, nearly vomited constantly. Unfortunatly Im obsessive about my weight.I lift weight and buy into the whole.. Big giant muscle syndrome. Anyhow I want to gain weight. Whats the common effective dose of Effexor SR? Is feeling hyper and restless any cause for concern? I'm on 150 mgs. currently... Anyone out there mix an Antipsychotic with their Effexor? (I'm taking Zyprexa with the E) Hopefully my constant "dark" distorted moods will not return, feeling OK so far... I just wanted to say hello to you fine men and women Take Care
> missinglynx... Wish me luck,
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