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Posted by jeninco on June 12, 2006, at 17:08:05
Hang in there you two. Know that you are in my thoughts and I'm just waiting to hear that things are getting better. I'm down to 3.75 mg again, working my way down to try again to stop taking remeron. Right now I don't know that I get any benefit or not (sometimes the amount doesn't make me sleepy at all, other times I sleep like a rock-who knows).
Anyway, I'm checking all of the time for updates from you two. You may not recall but I made it to 18 days before going back on-so I know how awful you are feeling. You will get through this (and I will too!).
Take care and feel better soon.
Posted by musky on June 12, 2006, at 21:10:46
In reply to To Musky and JohnnyJ, posted by jeninco on June 12, 2006, at 17:08:05
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Thanks Jenico... yes Im hanging in... it is day 19 Off Remeron for me... Been up and down, anxiety, broken sleep, but I am using all of my tools to get me by... Just advil if the headaches get bad, gingerale for the nausea but it has settled a fair amount... acupuncture for the anxiety part and ALOT of prayer, self care, exercise, water etc, etc... I just take one day at a time and ONLY talk to people that are for me to stay OFF the Remeron... To go back on it would be taking a step back not to mention damaging my brain even further... NO, I just tell myself that that option does NOT exist.. I try to remain mentally strong.. I functioned before Without remeron so I figure why on Earth would I need it again.. its just a psychological crutch.. Ive read too many posts here about the horrors of this and other a/d drugs... It doesnt solve anything... I will deal with my issues HEADON!!
Its scary at times and my moods sometimes really freak me out. but i know its the body readjusting and myself finding a new path and way of thinking ..
Good luck to you on your weaning??? Are you taking any other meds?? Im not ,,, thank God... other than the Advil here and there... I managed to overcome my panic without ativan anymore either.. feels good to have that control in me instead of a pill numbing me out..
take care and keep posting..
Hope johnny is doing ok,,, he quit same time as me and was having a brutal time.... havent seen his posts in a couple of days..
Oh yeah.. when you were off for 18days why did you go back instead of pushing ahead... u had already made it 18days... I understand when feeling down or crappy but just keep going... I suggest to go to 2mg if possible...thats what i did .. I just cut my 3.75mg in half sort of..(difficult to do mind you!) and stayed on this small bit for 4months.... i think tapering very slow helps with w/d afterwards...
Musky
Hang in there you two. Know that you are in my thoughts and I'm just waiting to hear that things are getting better. I'm down to 3.75 mg again, working my way down to try again to stop taking remeron. Right now I don't know that I get any benefit or not (sometimes the amount doesn't make me sleepy at all, other times I sleep like a rock-who knows).
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> Anyway, I'm checking all of the time for updates from you two. You may not recall but I made it to 18 days before going back on-so I know how awful you are feeling. You will get through this (and I will too!).
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> Take care and feel better soon.
Posted by jeninco on June 12, 2006, at 22:53:34
In reply to Re: To Musky and JohnnyJ, posted by musky on June 12, 2006, at 21:10:46
Musky,
I couldn't go on. Everyone was telling me 2-3 months, up to 8 months...I couldn't do it. I have two small children in my care all day and I was literally unable to take care of them. I was also having company come and couldn't take care of the house-AND, I was hoping that the reason it had all gone so badly was due to the fact that I stopped cold turkey. I am/was hoping that tapering down slowly (I thought at only 3.75 mg it wouldn't be a big deal), as slowly as a sliver every other day, every 3rd, every 4th, etc. I did this with zoloft and aside from a few days of severe brain zaps felt nothing.
I have a prescription for ambien for when I literally can not get any sleep. I THINK I'm tapering down slow enough that maybe I won't need it. Don't know.
Not sure what to do if even through a sloooow taper I get that sick again. I ONLY took remeron for sleep, but I was thinking-can't go on much longer. And all I had to do was go back on. Sad.
Keep posting please. You give me hope.
Posted by musky on June 14, 2006, at 0:15:01
In reply to Re: To Musky and JohnnyJ, posted by jeninco on June 12, 2006, at 22:53:34
Hey Jenico:
I see that you had a hard time first time.. cold turkey is NOT the way to go... remember these drugs Change the body chemistry... therefore must gradually change it back..
I believe ATTITUDE is a big part in all of this.. Theway we think .. If we say "we cant we cant, then guess what .. we WONT. you have to get real tough on yourself and sorry to sound blunt but any reason to not stay off is An EXCUSE... Please dont take this the wrong way.. I under stand your concern for the young children you mentioned and company etc.. but hey I too have kids(they are a bit older) but stilll and Im still going to work through all this. sure I could go along and say " ohh I feel realy down today I cant go to work or clean my house, etc.. BUT i just dont give in to the mental negative stuff... Yes its Hard but hey life isnt easy.. To me its like running a marathon.. you just go a section at a time. When I feel crappy which i have been since stopping and also last night I didnt sleep at all.. But Yet I STILL dragged myself to work.. and worked, dizzy and all and I have neck issues on top of this. So I just kept as calm as possible and then did some self care on my lunch time, etc.. That got me through the day.. then tonight I felt real down.. but just put on a smile , made a healthy supper, listened to a chinese mediative tape, and well it helped me calm down and picked up my mood.
Now Im not going to worry about tonights sleep, Iknow that in time it will get better. I refuse to take any sleep aids..thats just masking the problem.. I let the body do what it needs to do.. There are so many OTHER safe nonaddicting ways to sleep... I have acupuncture again on Friday that has been helping me maintain balance and has helped with the w/d getting too bad..
I also am drinking some chammomile tea( I ran out and got some more tonight).. so hopefully this will help too.. I also am starting up my Calcium magnesium supplements before bed .. this helps relax muscles etc. I usually take a HOT bath just before bed...
All these things help us cope until we get a more stable mind and feel stronger...
Sorry to ramble...
I suggest NOT to skip days when tapering.. just cut the dose and STAY on it until you feel stable. I noticed other posts where they skip the dose.. I dont think this is wise, as the body then is up and down in the titer... and then I think people have more problems this way..
When you think you cant go on.. thats when you just go into "robot mode" and DO IT... I even pretend Im well when feeling real bad,, you'd be surprised how you can mentally control your own health..Try it
Keep going ... you'll do it.. Let the WANT of being off, be stronger than anything the docs feed you(pills that is) or your fear of not coping.Hang in..
Today is day 20 for me OFF the Remeron... Ive gotta keep going
Musky
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