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Posted by LostBoyinNC45 on February 28, 2014, at 1:19:44
Dont laugh. I have had this idea. I hate the anti-gunners and their gun control crusade. one of the things I cant stand about them the most is they believe the mentally ill should not be allowed to be able to legally purchase and/or possess firearms. I call bs to that, completely.
Current federal restrictions to gun ownership in the USA involve basically three things. 1) being formally adjudicated in a court of law with full due process a "mental defective." Mental defective is as much a legal term as it is an old time psychiatric term. 2) being INVOLUNTARILY COMMITTED to a mental institution, this includes involuntary outpatient commitment btw. It does NOT include a voluntary commitment in a psych ward or hospital where you go on your own, without being prodded or ordered. You can be a schizophrenic and if you voluntary go to treatment, you can buy a gun and pass a NICS check, 3) if you are a drug addict, say if you are physically addicted to heroin or are alcohol dependent.
Those are the federal rules, on the NICS background check. Certain anti-gun states such as CA, NY, CT, NJ, MASS and a few others have their own more restrictive state laws imposed on top of the federal laws. If you live in one of those anti-gun states, I suppose you are SOL until you move.
Ive never had any of the above happen to me.
Anyway, I have this idea to piss off the anti-gunners. Create an NRA high power rifle team that uses National Match AR-15s and 20 to 30 round magazines. Let them compete and practice and have fun and watch them get to NRA HP Expert or higher, Across The Course (XTC it is called). Then call some liberal mass media and tell them about it, let them come out and take pictures of the "crazies with AR-15s who shoot NRA HP." And let them publish it. They'd whitewash it and slant it politically.
Then sue the sh*t out of the them and make a bunch of money off the libtard, anti-gunner mass media.
Maybe twenty or thirty shooters, all at least 18. None with substance abuse problems. I dont give a flip if they are psychotic or not as long as they are on meds and their symptoms are controlled.
The main criteria is you want to be on the team and you want to learn rifle marksmanship. And prove to the world "you see a psychiatrist, take meds and can be trusted with semi-automatic rifles."
After practices and meets we could do stuff like have pizza parties and give awards and stuff.
Plus it would simply be fun and get people out of the house with other people, other shooters and would basically be a form of therapy.
LOL
What do you say?
Eric
Posted by Phil on February 28, 2014, at 19:09:22
In reply to High Power shooting team composed of nuts, posted by LostBoyinNC45 on February 27, 2014, at 23:26:09
" I hate the anti-gunners and their gun control crusade"
maybe guns aren't the problem, the problem is hate. don't they have the same rights as you to express how they feel and what they believe?
Posted by SLS on February 28, 2014, at 19:09:23
In reply to Re: High Power shooting team composed of nuts, posted by Phil on February 28, 2014, at 16:42:07
> " I hate the anti-gunners and their gun control crusade"
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> maybe guns aren't the problem, the problem is hate. don't they have the same rights as you to express how they feel and what they believe?<like>
- Scott
Posted by LostBoyinNC45 on February 28, 2014, at 20:59:29
In reply to Re: High Power shooting team composed of nuts, posted by Phil on February 28, 2014, at 19:09:22
No, they dont have the right. Because what they are doing is trying to have my Constitutional rights taken away. I got a problem with that. Hate has its place. I hate people who are attempting to suppress my Constitutional rights. I consider people like that as traitors and are domestic enemies of the United States Constitution. Hence, I hate them.
Eric
> maybe guns aren't the problem, the problem is hate. don't they have the same rights as you to express how they feel and what they believe?
Posted by Willful on March 1, 2014, at 0:31:22
In reply to Re: High Power shooting team composed of nuts, posted by LostBoyinNC45 on February 28, 2014, at 20:59:29
Yes-- your constitutional right-- as if you understand anything about constitutional interpretation by the supreme court. And by the way, there is and has been considerable disagreement about what the second amendment is actually about.
So, while you're at it, dont' trample my first amendment right to freedom of speech.
As far as I"m concerned the sooner we get reasonable gun control in this country, the sooner people with a violent streak and envy and hatred of other human beings will have a much harder time accomplishing mass killings.
Posted by LostBoyinNC45 on March 1, 2014, at 10:23:24
In reply to Re: High Power shooting team composed of nuts, posted by Willful on March 1, 2014, at 0:31:22
Anything you say is negated by your personal prejudice and personal bias against the Second Amendment. Hence, your opinion on the United States Constitution means very little. Your ability to be the devils advocate and truly see things objectively is null and void.
Eric AKA "LostBoyinNC"
> Yes-- your constitutional right-- as if you understand anything about constitutional interpretation by the supreme court. And by the way, there is and has been considerable disagreement about what the second amendment is actually about.
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> So, while you're at it, dont' trample my first amendment right to freedom of speech.
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> As far as I"m concerned the sooner we get reasonable gun control in this country, the sooner people with a violent streak and envy and hatred of other human beings will have a much harder time accomplishing mass killings.
Posted by Beckett on March 1, 2014, at 21:25:28
In reply to Re: High Power shooting team composed of nuts, posted by LostBoyinNC45 on February 28, 2014, at 20:59:29
> I I hate people who are attempting to suppress my Constitutional rights. I consider people like that as traitors and are domestic enemies of the United States Constitution.
I am uneasy when who is an enemy of the state is decided based on emotion (such as hate).
Posted by LostBoyinNC45 on March 9, 2014, at 22:38:32
In reply to Re: High Power shooting team composed of nuts » LostBoyinNC45, posted by Beckett on March 1, 2014, at 21:25:28
It is not based upon emotion at all. Its based upon simple recognition that there are those in elected positions who are actively attempting to pass laws that will deconstruct any part of the U.S. Constitution. That includes ANY of the Bill of Rights, such as the Second Amendment.
Because I see clear and very unapologetic efforts by the anti-gun lobby and anti-gun politicians, my intense dislike for these individuals is not based upon emotion.
Its based upon the simple fact, the simple realization that this group is attempting to strip my Constitutional rights and freedoms. Hence, I have no love for them and consider them traitors to the United States Constitution.
When I enlisted in the military in the late eighties, I had to swear in several times. In front of the U.S. flag. It was an oath or affirmation. It went like this..."I swear to defend the United Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC."
I consider certain anti-gunner politicians as domestic enemies of the United States Constitution, based on their past actions. I judge them by their past actions, by their past public speeches.
Get a backbone and take a stand or you will not have any Constitutional rights or freedoms decades down the road.
Eric AKA "LostBoyinNC"
> > I I hate people who are attempting to suppress my Constitutional rights. I consider people like that as traitors and are domestic enemies of the United States Constitution.
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> I am uneasy when who is an enemy of the state is decided based on emotion (such as hate).
Posted by SLS on March 10, 2014, at 0:17:01
In reply to Re: High Power shooting team composed of nuts, posted by LostBoyinNC45 on March 9, 2014, at 22:38:32
My best friend is a gun enthusiast. He even repacks his own shotgun shells. I would rather that he be able to keep his guns. His guns have never been used to commit a crime. He uses his guns recreationally to hunt and for target practice.
My friend does not own a bazooka, a mortar, or a fully-automatic machine gun. He does not own a ICBM with a nuclear warhead. Shall the Second Amendment extend to these weapons? If not, why not?
- Scott
Posted by Phil on March 10, 2014, at 17:12:41
In reply to Re: High Power shooting team composed of nuts, posted by LostBoyinNC45 on March 9, 2014, at 22:38:32
good post. if we start chipping away at the 2nd amendment then what's next? my best friend of 33 years knows guns and he has a ton of them. i want to shoot his fully auto ak47. but he doesn't like being my target.
my bro during the last obama scare went out and bought a barreta don't remember the caliber but it was pure sex half gun half art.. my friend has a shortened .22 rifle. he said it's the best or one of the best guns for unwanted household guests
i held it and wouldn't give up.
he has my two guns in a gun safe the .22 my uncle gave me and my .38.
i'll get my .22 rifle soon but i do not need a .38 near me. sometimes my mood really drops hard. i don't need it here. and i think that's the right call. for me anyway still i wish i could trust myself. this is making me want to a gun range out in the sticksi quit cigarettes 1yr9mo ago by using ecigs. fda is trying to bury us. we paid for the scientist and the tests. benign. the fda doesn't have any long term studies. ecigs are a no brainer. this is the kind of stuff that drives me nuts. keep cigarettes ban the totally safer e cigs, kids might by them. screw that. 40 years two packs a day. tryind an ecig, smoked my last 8 marlboro lights. in ten das my wheezing stopped, no more ten minute hard coughing when laying in bed and nothing stinks.
every doc and nurse i've seen say you go, good move. i've written so many letters to my reps and signed two 25,000 petitions to the White House.
this is like the fda pulling all stims off the market but people benefit from them. you got me going LBIt is not based upon emotion at all. Its based upon simple recognition that there are those in elected positions who are actively attempting to pass laws that will deconstruct any part of the U.S. Constitution. That includes ANY of the Bill of Rights, such as the Second Amendment.
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> Because I see clear and very unapologetic efforts by the anti-gun lobby and anti-gun politicians, my intense dislike for these individuals is not based upon emotion.
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> Its based upon the simple fact, the simple realization that this group is attempting to strip my Constitutional rights and freedoms. Hence, I have no love for them and consider them traitors to the United States Constitution.
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> When I enlisted in the military in the late eighties, I had to swear in several times. In front of the U.S. flag. It was an oath or affirmation. It went like this..."I swear to defend the United Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC."
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> I consider certain anti-gunner politicians as domestic enemies of the United States Constitution, based on their past actions. I judge them by their past actions, by their past public speeches.
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> Get a backbone and take a stand or you will not have any Constitutional rights or freedoms decades down the road.
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> Eric AKA "LostBoyinNC"
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> > > I I hate people who are attempting to suppress my Constitutional rights. I consider people like that as traitors and are domestic enemies of the United States Constitution.
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> > I am uneasy when who is an enemy of the state is decided based on emotion (such as hate).
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Posted by Dr. Bob on March 11, 2014, at 10:14:07
In reply to Re: High Power shooting team composed of nuts, posted by LostBoyinNC45 on March 9, 2014, at 22:38:32
> > I am uneasy when who is an enemy of the state is decided based on emotion (such as hate).
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> It is not based upon emotion at all. Its based upon simple recognition that there are those in elected positions who are actively attempting to pass laws that will deconstruct any part of the U.S. Constitution.
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> Its based upon the simple fact, the simple realization that this group is attempting to strip my Constitutional rights and freedoms. Hence, I have no love for them and consider them traitors to the United States Constitution.
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> When I enlisted in the military in the late eighties, I had to swear in several times. In front of the U.S. flag. It was an oath or affirmation. It went like this..."I swear to defend the United Constitution against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC."
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> I consider certain anti-gunner politicians as domestic enemies of the United States ConstitutionI don't see having emotions (even hate) as a bad thing. Maybe you do have love for the Constitution? Maybe I'm wrong.
Bob
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