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Posted by Kath on April 2, 2007, at 13:21:18
In reply to I was scammed by the nail salon, posted by Deneb on April 1, 2007, at 0:42:17
Deneb - there'd be nothing wrong with notifying the authorities of your concerns. It's not as though you have to prove anything.
Also, there'd be nothing wrong with giving a copy of the warning information to the person who did your nails.
I just posted to Fivefires about using baking soda instead of chemicals for cleaning. I 'ranted' a bit there about the chemicals we're exposed to in body care products.
take care Deneb
luv, Kath
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 2, 2007, at 13:53:56
In reply to So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Deneb, posted by Kath on April 2, 2007, at 13:21:18
Oh Kate I think I've found a fellow soulmate!!
I'd actually prefer not to use any chemicals! And my, the things they put in body care products! I actually only use super-natural products which list everything, and its usually just 'normal' stuff like sunflower oil, or coconut oil or Celendular not artifical man made chemicals.
I don't use deodorant either - contrary to popular belief, I don't smell! Its such an urban myth. The more deodorant you use, the more you need to use it - and I bet most people seriously don't need it one bit if they let their body do its natural thing.
Anyway, I've love not to shampoo (even through the stuff I use is 'natural' - it still doesn't feel right. What did people use before shampoo?
Meri
Posted by Kath on April 2, 2007, at 14:01:53
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Kath, posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 2, 2007, at 13:53:56
Hmmmmmm - I wonder what they did use??
more another time.
luv, Kath
Posted by Dinah on April 2, 2007, at 14:03:14
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Kath, posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 2, 2007, at 13:53:56
> Anyway, I've love not to shampoo (even through the stuff I use is 'natural' - it still doesn't feel right. What did people use before shampoo?
>
> MeriIf I remember my history correctly, they wore large wigs and kept small dogs with them to draw the fleas off. :)
Seriously, I believe my mother's family, which was rather poor, used the same homemade soap they used to clean everything, which to her memory far harsher than anything we use today. Natural isn't necessarily more gentle.
Posted by philyra on April 2, 2007, at 14:16:31
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Kath, posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 2, 2007, at 13:53:56
supposedly if you go without shampoo & conditioner, just rinsing your hair well with warm water, it eventually will not need any soap whatsoever. i had a friend in college who conducted this experiment and said that after a few weeks her hair was silky soft and needed no shampoo to wash. i've never been brave enough to try it, but i still want to!
take care,
philyra
Posted by Kath on April 2, 2007, at 16:48:40
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Meri-Tuuli, posted by philyra on April 2, 2007, at 14:16:31
I agree as to the harshness of some older items. Wasn't lye an ingredient of old-time soaps?
On the other hand, unfortunately, these days, there are ingredients in various personal care products that are carcinogenic. I used to know a site that listed things. I remember sodium laurel sulphate (in most shampoos) being problematic; in fact I'm pretty sure it was linked with lowered sperm count...I remember years ago thinking of my son when I read that.
As to just rinsing our hair....I can believe it about the actual hair, but I wonder about our scalps & the oiliness. If I'm feeling really down & my hair isn't getting washed very often as a result :-(( my scalp gets an oily smell.
Then I know ........OK Kath; you're not doing great!!
I'd be interested to know how the friend who just rinsed their hair found their scalp was??
:-) Kath
Posted by Phillipa on April 2, 2007, at 19:47:07
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to, posted by Kath on April 2, 2007, at 16:48:40
I don't feel clean unless I shampoo and condition daily and my scalp itches if I skip a day and no dandruff. Love Phillipa ps I try to use natural products clarins shampoo and some schunchy stuff from Hawaii with natural ingrediants. Love Phillipa
Posted by NikkiT2 on April 3, 2007, at 10:19:17
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Kath, posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 2, 2007, at 13:53:56
If I don't use deoderant, believe me, I smell by lunchtime! So its not an urban myth at all.
Posted by NikkiT2 on April 3, 2007, at 10:24:16
In reply to I was scammed by the nail salon, posted by Deneb on April 1, 2007, at 0:42:17
Just to put your mind at rest..
I used to use false nails, and have regular manicures (before stopping biting my nails I used false ones for special occasions.. and then had regular manicures after stopping biting them as a treat!)
When ever I had false ones they files my nails using the electric file.. and they also had to "roughen" up the top of the nail to make the false one adhere better.
I also had gel ones and they used a powder paste with brushes on them.
i finally realised that false nails look stupid on me though *L* so I just file and buff my nails at home now and keep them short as they're way too weak to grow any longer!
Nikki
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 3, 2007, at 10:32:16
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Meri-Tuuli, posted by NikkiT2 on April 3, 2007, at 10:19:17
Yes, that might be the initial phase, but I bet if you went for several weeks at least, your body would go back to natural ways, and you wouldn't smell at all. Seriously! Oh well.
Its funny how people freak out when they hear that I don't wear deodorant, and haven't for many years now - they'd never have guessed. Or smelt, should I say.
It seriously is the case that once you break the cycle and stop using it, you don't need it. This may take some weeks, but you get there.
Its like the more you use deodorant, the more you need to use it, the more you sweat.... oh well. I can see that i'm very clearly in the minority here.
Kind regards
Meri
Posted by NikkiT2 on April 3, 2007, at 11:24:15
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » NikkiT2, posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 3, 2007, at 10:32:16
I have gone without using it.. But, I sweat and sweat ~does~ smell when the microbes are able to grow. I tend to sweat fairly heavily and so I guess more microbes grow.
I went 6 weeks without it a few years ago when I was able to wash (using no detergents, just rain water) three times a day.. I use all organic products at home, with very few chemicals in them, but I'm afraid I ~do~ need to us ean anti persperant.
Also, when I was 15 a group of us did the "not hair washing" thing. After about 6 weeks (of hell) our hair did stop being greasy. But it smelt awful *lol*
Nikki
Posted by Deneb on April 3, 2007, at 11:42:30
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » NikkiT2, posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 3, 2007, at 10:32:16
You're not alone Meri. I don't use deodorant or anti-perspirant except on rare occasions, neither does anyone in my family. We don't smell. I only smell if I don't take a shower for a long time and do exercise and then sleep. That happened once while I was camping.
Deneb*
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 3, 2007, at 13:04:22
In reply to Re: Deodorant, posted by Deneb on April 3, 2007, at 11:42:30
Oh thats cool Deneb. I didn't know there was anyone else out there! I suppose its not the sort of thing you mention!!
Are there any specific reasons why you don't use it? That that you have to have any, I'm just curious.
Kind regards
Meri
Posted by Kath on April 3, 2007, at 19:44:06
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Meri-Tuuli, posted by NikkiT2 on April 3, 2007, at 10:19:17
I use a salt stick...it's a wind up thing. You wet it & rub it under your arms. The first few days I used it, I did end up being stinky! After a few days it was working fine. When I was camping, I didn't use it for several days & it had a delayed positive action!! I didn't smell!!!
Me too, Nikki - apart from the salk stick, I do smell if I don't wear deodorant.
BUT the salt stick is great. And it has lasted me for about 3 years & isn't even 1/4 gone!
Kath
Posted by Dinah on April 3, 2007, at 19:48:02
In reply to Salt deodorants, posted by Kath on April 3, 2007, at 19:44:06
Do you have a brand name on that? I can't use antiperspirants because they cause me to get those bumps under my arms.
Of course, sometimes with my diabetes my underarm yeast infection gets bad enough that my skin gets irritated and I have to use Neosporin. Which works pretty well as an antiperspirant.
It would be interesting to see how a salt deodorant worked with all those other factors.
Posted by 10derHeart on April 3, 2007, at 20:11:04
In reply to Salt deodorants, posted by Kath on April 3, 2007, at 19:44:06
But Kath.....would horses then want to walk up and lick me under my arms?!!
'cause that might tickle, and be a bit slobbery, at the very least.....
<grin>
Posted by Phillipa on April 3, 2007, at 21:16:29
In reply to Re: Salt deodorants » Kath, posted by 10derHeart on April 3, 2007, at 20:11:04
Seriously Kath is right as my husband has this hard deodorant stick from the health food store lasts for years. And he doesn't stink and it's not sticky have used it too. Love Phillipa
Posted by Kath on April 3, 2007, at 21:17:41
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Meri-Tuuli, posted by NikkiT2 on April 3, 2007, at 11:24:15
Nikki - did your hair eventually stop smelling? I wonder about the scalp.
Have you ever tried the salt deodorant? I totally swear by it.
hugs, Kath
Posted by Kath on April 3, 2007, at 21:19:34
In reply to Re: Salt deodorants » Kath, posted by 10derHeart on April 3, 2007, at 20:11:04
Jeez - I never thot of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guard your armpits; the horses are coming!!
LOL
K
Posted by Kath on April 3, 2007, at 21:35:52
In reply to Re: Salt deodorants » Kath, posted by Dinah on April 3, 2007, at 19:48:02
There are various ones, even in the regular pharmacies. I'll check right now:
Mine is Organic Country Natural Crystal Deodorant
made in Acton, Ontario
Hubby's is Naturally Fresh Deodorant Crystal made by
TCCD International
P.O.Box 10721 Pompano Beach, FL 33061Another is a liquid salt roll on
Northern Harmony Original Crystal Deodorant Roll On
Made in the USA for Corwin Distribution Ltd, Concord, Ontario L4K 1M1Try phoning a natural foods /health food store & asking. Or a pharmacy.
If you need additional help, just let me know.
:-) Kath
Posted by philyra on April 4, 2007, at 10:20:36
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to, posted by Kath on April 2, 2007, at 16:48:40
hi Kath & everyone, i think another trick was to brush and comb her hair really well so that my friend's scalp eventually had less build-up on it while she was washing it without shampoo. the theory is that your scalp (the ph, etc.) becomes dependent on the shampoo in the same way that your armpits become dependent on deodorant. after a while, the buildup will go away. i will say that i lived with this friend, and her hair didn't smell to my knowledge! but it was during a very cold winter, so i'm sure that helped.
i use crystal deodorant too, and love it. and i sweat a lot, so i sometimes reapply later in the day. i find it helps with stinky clothes, too, if i can't change my shirt i give the armpits a few swipes with the crystal. my last crystal lasted 6 years!
over the years i've worked to replace a lot of body care products with nutrition. flax oil instead of lotion, for example. although this recent winter made me break down and start using lotion again...maybe this summer i'll experiment with my hair if i'm brave enough!
take care,
philyra
Posted by Kath on April 4, 2007, at 20:55:08
In reply to washing hair w/o shampoo » Kath, posted by philyra on April 4, 2007, at 10:20:36
Thanks for that interesting post!!
I have VERY naturally curly hair & couldn't possibly brush it - even if I could get the brush through it, my hair would be sticking out like a crazy Afro hairstyle!!! LOL
It's really interesting though.
It doesn't surprise me that your crystal deodorant lasted 6 years. I'm sure mine will too. I love it. One thing I really love is that if I've been using it regularly, I can go for days without using it. I like this when I'm away on my camping holiday.
:-) Kath
Posted by scratchpad on April 5, 2007, at 22:13:39
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Kath, posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 2, 2007, at 13:53:56
I'm afraid that I take after my father in having an overly generous amount of sweat glands. (Nikki, you might not have noticed, but I was perspiring like mad when we met!)
By some mean twist of fate, my sense of smell has become exquisitely sensitive. Next year I may try truffle hunting...
My point is that my armpits smell horribly by the end of the day. Going without underarm protection is only an option if I am completely secluded and plan to change the bedsheets after I awake. It's made worse by my age (44, hello hot flashes) and location (Florida). My way of coping is to shower in the morning, use an antibacterial soap under my arms, then wear one deodorant on top of another deodorant/antiperspirant. Even at that, I'm constantly nonchalantly lifting one arm and sniffing it like a bunch of fresh flowers. If I feel too gross by the end of the day, I'll take another shower.Living in England was an olfactory experience the likes I'd never known. I actually stocked up on underarm deodorants and antiperspirants when I'd go back to the states for holidays. I found the products in the UK smelled really lovely, but didn't so much treat the underlying odour as much as add an additional smell to it. Sometimes it could make me wretch.
Scratchpad
ps I don't make a practice of smelling people when I meet and greet. The exception is my brother in law, so smells so foul that my sweet little kitty cat bites him when she's had a whiff. Oh, all right; the cat's name IS Psycho. But really!
Posted by Phillipa on April 5, 2007, at 22:34:21
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » Meri-Tuuli, posted by scratchpad on April 5, 2007, at 22:13:39
Scratchpad can I call you stinky? Just kidding love Phillipa
Posted by scratchpad on April 6, 2007, at 20:48:18
In reply to Re: So many chemicals that we're exposed to » scratchpad, posted by Phillipa on April 5, 2007, at 22:34:21
> Scratchpad can I call you stinky? Just kidding love Phillipa
I prefer sexie pie ha ha ha
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