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Posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 15:24:18
Does anyone else find the Cymbalta commercial terribly depressing? Do you know the one? Who does depression hurt? (They show the infant or the dog.) Where does depression hurt? (They show someone rubbing their neck and shoulders), etc.
I wish I could laugh about the fact that the minute I hear the music for a commercial for an anti-depressant I get sad, but I can't. It seriously makes me sad to hear or watch (especially the child and dog being ignored).
I guess I just wish today was an easier day.
If only that Cymbalta I just started taking a few days ago would kick in. :-(
Posted by zenhussy on October 12, 2006, at 15:50:58
In reply to stupid depressing commercial, posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 15:24:18
and yes the commercials appear to be designed to evoke those responses of guilt for the implied neglect of the baby and the dog
the little baby actor used in the commercial is just that...an actor
N isn't an actor but the real thing and neglect just isn't part of his life....he's a fortunate young'un with two loving parents.....that he has you as ma is more than enough....give yourself some compassion please Ms.All Done as you would do for any of the folks you've posted to with your wisdom and kindness over the years
Posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 16:14:09
In reply to have faith...sorry it hasn't been easier lately :( » All Done, posted by zenhussy on October 12, 2006, at 15:50:58
Thank you, zen.
I was going to try in my original post to include some things I'm grateful for or feeling especially good about. Maybe some things I could just hang onto a little bit to help me feel better. But it all sounded a bit contrived and just not right.
Now, I can honestly say your post to me helped. A lot. My day is a little better and easier because of you. (Although I'm not exactly sure what to do about the lump in my throat and tears in my eyes.)
Thank you, ((((zen)))).
Laurie
Posted by ClearSkies on October 12, 2006, at 18:12:26
In reply to stupid depressing commercial, posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 15:24:18
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> I guess I just wish today was an easier day.Me too, I'm sorry it's hard for you.
>
> If only that Cymbalta I just started taking a few days ago would kick in. :-(Cymbalta took a long time to become effective for me. 4 weeks that felt like forever, and the improvements were so subtle. But it does work well for me.
(((AllDone))))
Posted by Phillipa on October 12, 2006, at 20:24:40
In reply to Re: stupid depressing commercial, posted by ClearSkies on October 12, 2006, at 18:12:26
Think it might work if I tried it a third time more slowly? I'm sure the second time that was bad was the pdoc I didn't like or trust. He wanted to go so fast it scared me to death well almost death. And I hate the commercials too. Makes you feel responsible for how you feel. Guilty. Love phillipa
Posted by Emily Elizabeth on October 12, 2006, at 20:27:38
In reply to stupid depressing commercial, posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 15:24:18
I agree it is depressing, but I feel like it is a really accurate depiction of how depression feels for me. Honestly, I think it has actually helped my mom understand what I go through.
(I imagine my poor kitties feeling neglected when I see the dog!)
It is certainly more realistic than those d*mn old zoloft commercials with the happy ball!
Best,
EE
Posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 22:38:03
In reply to Re: stupid depressing commercial, posted by ClearSkies on October 12, 2006, at 18:12:26
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> > I guess I just wish today was an easier day.
>
> Me too, I'm sorry it's hard for you.Maybe we can have do-overs for today? Or just start tomorrow with a clean slate? ((((ClearSkies)))))
> > If only that Cymbalta I just started taking a few days ago would kick in. :-(
>
> Cymbalta took a long time to become effective for me. 4 weeks that felt like forever, and the improvements were so subtle. But it does work well for me.
>
> (((AllDone))))Thanks. It's good to know you've had improvement on Cymbalta. I'll keep in mind that it might take awhile.
I hope tomorrow's a good day for you, CS.
Take care,
Laurie
Posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 22:42:34
In reply to Re: stupid depressing commercial » ClearSkies, posted by Phillipa on October 12, 2006, at 20:24:40
> Think it might work if I tried it a third time more slowly? I'm sure the second time that was bad was the pdoc I didn't like or trust. He wanted to go so fast it scared me to death well almost death. And I hate the commercials too. Makes you feel responsible for how you feel. Guilty. Love phillipa
Hi, Phillipa. Medications work so differently in each person. I wonder if they can work differently in the same person at different times in their life. I hope you find a medication that works for you (and a good pdoc).
Laurie
Posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 23:00:21
In reply to Re: stupid depressing commercial, posted by Emily Elizabeth on October 12, 2006, at 20:27:38
> I agree it is depressing, but I feel like it is a really accurate depiction of how depression feels for me. Honestly, I think it has actually helped my mom understand what I go through.
((((Emily Elizabeth))))
I understand what you're saying and I wish it wasn't so hard. I think part of the problem for me is that the commercial hits too close to home - whether I want to admit it or not.
I'm glad it helped your mom to understand more. It definitely helps when the people closest to you get it.
> (I imagine my poor kitties feeling neglected when I see the dog!)Aww...your kitties have a good kitty-mommy. I think animals can sense so much in us. I'm glad you have them. Sometimes my dog can make me feel better just by snuggling up next to me.
> It is certainly more realistic than those d*mn old zoloft commercials with the happy ball!This is *very* true!
Lots of hugs if you want them,
Laurie
Posted by Phillipa on October 12, 2006, at 23:00:45
In reply to Re: stupid depressing commercial » ClearSkies, posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 22:38:03
Laurie I have you in my address book forgot your posting name. And I went back to the old pdoc 5hours away each way. Love Phillipa
Posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 23:07:08
In reply to Re: stupid depressing commercial » All Done, posted by Phillipa on October 12, 2006, at 23:00:45
> Laurie I have you in my address book forgot your posting name. And I went back to the old pdoc 5hours away each way. Love Phillipa
Ahh! Five hours? How often do you go?
Sometimes if traffic is terrible it can take up to two hours to get to my T, but usually it's an hour and fifteen minutes. Guess I won't complain about it anymore. ;-)
Posted by fayeroe on October 13, 2006, at 21:20:07
In reply to Re: have faith...sorry it hasn't been easier lately :( » zenhussy, posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 16:14:09
Laurie, i second everything Zen said to you and add something. I know you to be a kind and loving person that I respect very much. love, pat
Posted by Lindenblüte on October 14, 2006, at 14:30:39
In reply to Re: have faith...sorry it hasn't been easier lately :(, posted by fayeroe on October 13, 2006, at 21:20:07
Laurie,
here's how you know when the cymbalta starts kicking in.Stage 1. you are depressed- you see the commercial and it makes you feel depressed.
Stage 2. you are starting to notice little changes- you see the commercial, and you no longer identify with the unkempt woman lying on the couch in her living room
Stage 3. you are feeling a lot better, and you notice for the first time just how manipulative those commercials are. You vow never to allow them access to your depressed side again.
Stage 4. You hear the music start, and you see the silhouette of the woman's back and the green and blue animation of cymbalta acting on "serotonin and norepininephrine"... you recognize what a bunch of suckers we all are. You start chuckling. Then you start laughing hysterically. People turn and look at you like you're a madwoman. You are happy to affirm that you ARE indeed a madwoman, but that you are no longer a depressedwoman.
In my experience- I felt different- clearer thinking after about 1-2 weeks, but also some disturbing thoughts. Felt some relief after 3-4 weeks, and after 6 weeks we went up to 90mg, which is where I am right now. It's been a pretty good AD for me.
"Where does depression hurt?"
my TV set
"Who does depression hurt?"
my insurance companysee- not so bad afterall?
((((((Laurie))))))
-Lindenb.
p.s. you are not neglectful- you know you would neglect yourself for a long time before you would ever neglect your loved ones. You are very caring :)
Posted by gardenergirl on October 15, 2006, at 0:21:45
In reply to stupid depressing commercial, posted by All Done on October 12, 2006, at 15:24:18
I'm sorry that's triggering. I dislike that commercial, too. And I have a hard time with how my depression and ADHD affect my husband. As if any of us need to feel more guilty. Bleah.
I know you're a very good mommy and wife. Friend, too.
Take care, sweetie.
gg
Posted by All Done on October 17, 2006, at 17:25:33
In reply to Re: have faith...sorry it hasn't been easier lately :(, posted by fayeroe on October 13, 2006, at 21:20:07
Thank you, Pat. You're so sweet. :)
Lots of hugs,
LaurieP.S. It's nice to see you around here.
Posted by All Done on October 17, 2006, at 17:31:04
In reply to Re: have faith...sorry it hasn't been easier latel, posted by Lindenblüte on October 14, 2006, at 14:30:39
Thank you for making me laugh, Li!
I'll give the Cymbalta some time. I just seriously need to turn off the commercials until I know I'm at at least Stage 3.
And thanks for the hugs. I have some for you, too, if you need them. (((((Lindenb.)))))
Take gentle care of yourself.
Your friend,
Laurie
Posted by All Done on October 17, 2006, at 17:33:25
In reply to ((((((AllDone)))))), posted by gardenergirl on October 15, 2006, at 0:21:45
Thank you, ((((gg)))).
I sure have the guilt thing down pat, huh? Is there guilt at Camp Comfort? Maybe we're all due for a visit.
You take care, too. Let me know if you need an ear to listen (or eyes to read, or whatever...)
Hugs,
Laurie
Posted by All Done on October 17, 2006, at 17:40:06
In reply to Re: ((((((AllDone)))))), posted by All Done on October 17, 2006, at 17:33:25
I didn't mean to give myself a hug.
Hmm...or did I?
Posted by Lindenblüte on October 17, 2006, at 18:27:49
In reply to Re: Whoops! ^^^^above subject line^^^^, posted by All Done on October 17, 2006, at 17:40:06
You can NEVER have too many hugs, and one of the most important rules at Camp Comfort is "don't forget to hug yourSELF!"
Hope you're doing okay-- keep us up to date on your cymbalta trial. I'm really interested.
Also, I really care about you- you're such a sweetie, and you feel way too much guilt. You know, guilt is the most toxic, least productive emotion around? Howabout if you give your guilt a Halloween costume. You can call it "fear" or "anger" or "malevolence" or "weepiness" or "the wicked wind that blows from the west" or whatever.
Or you can send it on a trip. Many lawmakers seem to be barely hanging on to their sense of reality, their guilt deficit is so high. I think you should make a kind donation to someone who really needs guilt. Somewhere, in some impressive building is a powerful person who has everything s/he ever dreamed of and more-- except for guilt. You could really make a difference in this world, AllDone. I think you could start a positive movement. Put the toxic emotion in the appropriate dumpsite.
yes... I can see it now!
-Li
*grin*
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