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Posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 19:11:36
Big D[epression]
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Posted by madeline on May 25, 2006, at 19:40:34
In reply to Today's score, posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 19:11:36
you go girl!
Posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 19:48:36
In reply to Today's score, posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 19:11:36
yeah, I even broke my fast.
my friends asked me to go to bbq.
I had a cheeseburger
potato salad
and even a BROWNIEand the best part:
It tasted GOOD.
not like wallpaper paste :)
Posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2006, at 20:57:51
In reply to Re: Today's score (food trigger), posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 19:48:36
When you're depreesed do you lose you sense of taste? Love Phillipa
Posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 21:40:51
In reply to Re: Today's score (food trigger) » llrrrpp, posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2006, at 20:57:51
I lose the connection between pleasure and taste. And sometimes a little sense of taste (although it's all aromas anyways..) I eat chocolate and it tastes like chocolate, even good chocolate. But it doesn't FEEL like eating chocolate. Does that make sense? It makes it really hard to get enough calories. Why bother shopping and cooking and doing dishes when one can space out in front of the TV instead?
My mom, however, lost her sense of smell within 2 weeks of starting AD last fall. She wasn't on prozac, or lexapro, but another very popular one. She was very concerned, and quit cold turkey, but the sense of smell still hasn't returned. now an apple tastes like a potato. cake tastes like sweetened bread. chocolate tastes like sweetened wax. It's really sad for her. My grandpa also has no sense of smell, since age of about 50 or so. I have no idea what kind of disorder this is. I hope I don't inherit it too...
Posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 21:48:03
In reply to Re: Today's score, posted by madeline on May 25, 2006, at 19:40:34
Thanks (((Maddie)))
:o)
Ll
Posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2006, at 21:49:17
In reply to Re: Today's score (food trigger) » Phillipa, posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 21:40:51
Wow!!!!Two years ago I lost my sense of taste and smell went to two large taste and smell clinics one at Wake Forrest in Winstom Salem and the other in DC. Both said I'd had a virus that killed the neurons in my nose hence no smell which equals no taste. The taste buds only tasted sour, bitter, sweet, salty. SLS said depression can loss of taste food doesn't taste good if your're depressed. Love Phillipa ps a major breakthough
Posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 22:23:53
In reply to Re: Today's score (food trigger) » llrrrpp, posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2006, at 21:49:17
Yeah, my mom went to see a neurologist and got an MRI. They couldn't find anything wrong in her brain (I was worried maybe she had a stroke or something)
She's always had bad tonsil problems every winter. I don't know if that's related. severe hypothyroid? sleep apnea? obesity? menopause? (depression)
no clue...? What's the virus called?
-Ll
Posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2006, at 22:56:05
In reply to Re: Today's score (food trigger) » Phillipa, posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 22:23:53
No name for it but I had lymes disese chronic could that be related? And I had an MRI too. Love Phillipa what I wouldn't give for a cornoa with lime.
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 28, 2006, at 8:50:10
In reply to Re: Today's score (food trigger) » Phillipa, posted by llrrrpp on May 25, 2006, at 21:40:51
> I lose the connection between pleasure and taste. And sometimes a little sense of taste (although it's all aromas anyways..)
Taste is distinct from aroma. Sweet sour salt bitter and umami? I think that's the taste part. The rest is aroma.
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> My mom, however, lost her sense of smell within 2 weeks of starting AD last fall.It may be too little, too late, but zinc metabolism is involved in some cases of loss of taste or smell. I have a hereditary zinc problem, so I'm aware of some of the issues. Anyway, here's a "can't hurt, might help" suggestion.
Assuming a person is taking a typical multivitamin/multimineral already, a person with loss of taste or smell should take 50 mg/day chelated zinc, and 3,000 mg/day vitamin C, in divided doses. The zinc is best taken 20 minutes before a large meal. The vitamin C with your three meals.
There are very special proteins that stud the very tips of your chemosensory arrays in your nasal sinuses. There's a special little folded protein called a zinc finger that is essential to their function. No zinc, no smell. That's what *can* happen. If your body needs zinc elsewhere, it can prioritize things. Smell is not the last thing to go. Your body needs zinc in other places that are more important than smell.
The problem is that your nervous system will adapt to the loss of signal, over time. It will down-regulate central sensory circuits from any sense that is not supplying data to the network. It might be too late for your older relatives. But it can't hurt to try.
If your problem is zinc, this would work for you. It takes about two weeks to turnover the sensory field, and it takes a little time to get the zinc levels up, so you could expect gradually increasing sense of smell over about a month. *If* your problem is zinc.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 28, 2006, at 8:52:43
In reply to Re: Today's score (food trigger) » llrrrpp, posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2006, at 21:49:17
> Wow!!!!Two years ago I lost my sense of taste and smell went to two large taste and smell clinics one at Wake Forrest in Winstom Salem and the other in DC. Both said I'd had a virus that killed the neurons in my nose hence no smell which equals no taste. The taste buds only tasted sour, bitter, sweet, salty. SLS said depression can loss of taste food doesn't taste good if your're depressed. Love Phillipa ps a major breakthough
Loss of taste and smell, with depression, could all be caused by a single underlying condition. Alternative to depression causing it, or vice versa. They could all arise from a third unknown variable. Functional zinc deficiency is a candidate for that primary factor.
Lar
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