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Posted by RetiredYoung on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:36
In reply to Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy??, posted by tepiaca on February 14, 2006, at 15:20:27
There is no magic cure out there, - be it medications, therapy, surgery, .. whatever - that extra $$s can buy. So, I would answer your question with 'No'.
Jim
Posted by BUCKEYE FANATIC on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:36
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy??, posted by RetiredYoung on February 14, 2006, at 16:00:52
I agree.
We have the wealtheist of Athletes and Movie Stars here in America....they have every possible medical treatment and counseling that money can buy..and yet they still struggle with depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, personal problems, divorces, car accidents,drug and alcohol abuse, prison time etc...
Peace of mind canot be bought at any Price it would seem
BF
Posted by linkadge on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:36
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy??, posted by RetiredYoung on February 14, 2006, at 16:00:52
I am not sure I would agree with that.
One example would be stress reduction. Money can buy say massauge which could very well have a positive overall impact on anxiety and depression. Especially in persons with depression induced by stress and anxiety.
There were also times where I could not afford the high EPA fish oil that really helps my depression. I had to wait till my finances improved. When I could afford it, my depression improved. So I would argue that having money could very well have a favorable impact on depression.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:36
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy?? » RetiredYoung, posted by linkadge on February 14, 2006, at 16:48:32
See the following study:
http://www.hbcprotocols.com/lowincome.html
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:36
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy??, posted by BUCKEYE FANATIC on February 14, 2006, at 16:16:19
These are statements that poor people like me would like to believe. Movie stars perhaps face more social stress which could predispose them to depression. But I still would argue that having money could reduce the burden of depression in many ways.
Linkadge
Posted by willyee on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:36
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy?? » RetiredYoung, posted by linkadge on February 14, 2006, at 16:48:32
I think money could help if you could not afford treatment,money could assure u the treatment u need.
But in this case its not the "money" making u better its the treatment.
Im sure money wouldent help a parkinsons person feel "fixed"
Difference being a healthy person would feel great just knowing they had the money itself,a sick person the money is not gonna help them at all.So i disagree as to how u put it.
Posted by vainamoinen on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:37
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy??, posted by willyee on February 14, 2006, at 16:58:11
Money can't buy happiness...but it can make a pretty good down payment.
It's nice to have fvck it money. As in you can leave your job and say fvck it!
Posted by linkadge on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:37
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy??, posted by willyee on February 14, 2006, at 16:58:11
In the case of parkinsons, money may not cure it,
but it could buy things that might help make the a little easier to live with.I'm sure that Michael J. Fox can afford certain treatments that poorer people can't afford.
To what extent they help, I don't know.
Linkadge
Posted by RetiredYoung on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:37
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy?? » RetiredYoung, posted by linkadge on February 14, 2006, at 16:48:32
Link - I understand what you're saying and agree with the need to have money for supplements or even meds. I'm just speaking from personal experience; I'm very fortunate to have a great deal of money, and yet here I am reading this board daily.
I've used my money to try medical specialists, medications, and numerous alternative approaches. Unfortunately, I'm no better off with my depression than I was four years ago.
'Tis a nasty allfication...
Regards,
Jim
Posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:37
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy?? » linkadge, posted by RetiredYoung on February 14, 2006, at 18:18:00
Are you saying that having a lot of money doesn't afford you the luxary of having the very best doctors, treatments, extra help, vacations, expensive medications. Things I can't afford. If I has a lot of money I would seriously look into places such as the Betty Ford Clinic. I'm not addicted but would love to get off all med. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by BUCKEYE FANATIC on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:37
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy?? » RetiredYoung, posted by Phillipa on February 14, 2006, at 21:40:13
I agree with Linage and others who say that Money buys better treatment...but does it buy better results????????? Here is a Link and a partial list of some rich and famous ( some just famous) who struggle(d) with mental Illness....(make sure you read all 3 pages)
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1175/is_6_32/ai_56883556/pg_3
Barbara Bush * Former First Lady
Gamet Coleman * Texas legislator H
Kitty Dukakis * Former First Lady of Massachusetts H
Thomas Eagleton * Lawyer, former U.S. Senator H
Lynn Rivers * U.S. CongresswomanSol Wachtler * Judge H
Phil Graham * Owner of the Washington PostAbble Hoffman * Writer and political activist S
Robert McFarlane * Former National
Security Adviser SA, HAthletes
Ilie Natase * Tennis player and politician
Jimmie Piersall * Baseball player and announcer
Muffin Spencer Devlin * Pro golfer H
Bert Yancey * Pro golfer H, SA
Scientists
Buzz Aldrin * Astronaut, second man to walk on Moon H
Karl Paul Link * Chemist
Steven Hawking * Physicist, developed the
Big Bang creation theorySalvador Luria * Scientist of bacterial genetics,
Nobel LaureateEntertainers
Francis Ford Coppola * Director of The Godfather
Patty Duke * Actor on The Patty Duke Show SA
Linda Hamilton * Actor from The Terminator movies
Alvin Ailey * Dancer and choreographer
Dick Clark * Host of New Year's Rockin' Eve
Drew Barrymore * Movie actor and director SA, H
Writers
William Faulkner * The Sound and the Fury H
F. Scott Fitzgerald * The Great Gatsby H
Ernest Hemingway * The Old Man and the Sea H, S
Joseph Conrad * Heart of Darkness SA
Eugene O'Neill * The Iceman Cometh H, SA
Tennessee Williams * A Streetcar Named Desire H
Virginia Woolf * A Room of One's Own H, S
Jules Feiffer * cartoonist for the New Yorker
and the Village VoiceComposers/Musicians
Irving Berlin * White Christmas" and "God Bless America"
Cole Porter * Anything Goes
Hector Berlioz * Symphonie Fantastique
Kurt Cobain * Former musician for the band Nirvana S
Sting * Formerly of The Police and now a solo performer
Tam Waits * Experimental, progressive musician
Brian Wilson * Former member of the Beach Boys
Axl Rose * Singer for rock band Guns n' Roses
Ray Charles * Legendary R&B performer
Eric Clapton * Blues-rock musician H
Sheryl Crow * Rock musician
Sarah McLachlan * Pop singer and creator of Lilith Fair
Robert Schumann * German classical composer H, SA
Poets
T.S. Eliot * The Wasteland
Sylvia Plath * The Bell Jar
Edgar Allen Poe * "The Raven" SA
Anne Sexton * Live or Die SWalt Whitman * Leaves of Grass H, S
Artists
Vincent Van Gogh * Starry Night, Sunflowers H, S
Michelangelo * Renaissance painter of the Sistine Chapel
ceiling and sculptor of DavidEdvard Munch * The Scream H
Mark Rothko * Modern, color-block painting pioneer S
BF
Posted by linkadge on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:37
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy??, posted by BUCKEYE FANATIC on February 15, 2006, at 7:09:02
I think the big problem with celebrities is not that money can get them better again, but that money can also get them sick again, if you know what I mean.
As long as you don't let money make your depression worse (many ways that it can do that) then it can only help to make things better.
Linkadge
Posted by RetiredYoung on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:37
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy?? » RetiredYoung, posted by Phillipa on February 14, 2006, at 21:40:13
My only point was to answer the question, at least in my case. And that's 'No', a million dollars cannot make you happy. I can afford, and have seen, the best psychiatrists, neurologists, and psychologists in my area. I've had the time to try relaxation and stress reduction techniques, yoga, meditation, accupuncture, etc. I'm still anxious and depressed (i.e.)
I believe that what this boils down to is that we're desperately lacking in medications and therapies to help people with true, major depression.
Regards,
Jim
Posted by linkadge on February 15, 2006, at 18:17:37
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy?? » Phillipa, posted by RetiredYoung on February 15, 2006, at 14:31:39
Money need not imply happiness, but it can imply happiness. I'm sure that your situation could have the potential to be a he** of a lot worse without money (not trying to marginalize your suffering in any way)
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2006, at 19:24:58
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy??, posted by RetiredYoung on February 14, 2006, at 16:00:52
Hey Dr. Bob you lost my post!!!! So I'll say the same thing if I had a miillion dollars I go to the very best place for treatment in the world. Best pdocs, massage, climate, food, support groups, excercise groups. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2006, at 19:29:10
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy?? » Phillipa, posted by RetiredYoung on February 15, 2006, at 14:31:39
Retired Young I'm sorry. And I really thought that maybe the best docs and treatment would help. So what are you taking for your deprssion? After spending all this money , time, good facilities are you saying there's no hope for any of us including you? You can babblemail if you wish. Love Phillipa
Posted by wanttobhappy on February 15, 2006, at 21:25:33
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy??, posted by RetiredYoung on February 14, 2006, at 16:00:52
I am sure I am repeating what some others have said but here it is in my own words anyway. Having a million dollars, my first instinct is to say HE** yeah it would make my life much easier. Then I think about it and yes, it would alliviate(sp) many of my problems as I have also have had months when I am scrounging to find enough money for my meds. I also know my depression is greatly increased when I am stressed and I think having alot of money would cause a whole new set of everyday stresses, sudden loving family who need money, TAXES, security, and awhole lot more. So yes I think money could alliviate the stressors I have now do I think it would solve all my problems NOPE. I am beyond a little cash fixing me!!
Best of health to all!
Laura
Posted by timeflies on February 15, 2006, at 22:11:27
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy?? » RetiredYoung, posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2006, at 19:29:10
> Retired Young I'm sorry. And I really thought that maybe the best docs and treatment would help. So what are you taking for your deprssion? After spending all this money , time, good facilities are you saying there's no hope for any of us including you? You can babblemail if you wish. Love Phillipa
IMO, money can make life easier, but not make you happier. the best doctors are too busy to be able to give the best treatment that got them to become the best doctors in the first place. But to be able to get decent treatment would make a diffenrece for some. But the success rates for many of the treamtent facilities are still suprisingly low. I believe a lot of us, hold the answers inside us.
that was way too cheesy for me.
Posted by RetiredYoung on February 16, 2006, at 15:01:17
In reply to Re: Lets say I have a million dolar, can I be happy?? » RetiredYoung, posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2006, at 19:29:10
Thanks.. I currently take Zyprexa and Prozac. It's made me fat and somewhat happy at times. And of course I'm not saying there's no hope for any of us - just trying to say there are no magic medicines or therapies out there that only people with a few extra bucks can access to achieve "happiness".
Best regards,
Jim> Retired Young I'm sorry. And I really thought that maybe the best docs and treatment would help. So what are you taking for your deprssion? After spending all this money , time, good facilities are you saying there's no hope for any of us including you? You can babblemail if you wish. Love Phillipa
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