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Posted by Deneb on June 12, 2005, at 21:26:42
I miss winter. :-)
I like to snuggle up in bed with two comforters on top of me. Aaah...comfy.
It's so hot here with the computer on!
I took a couple of plunks into the tub to cool off. :-)
I put an ice pack on top of Hammy's home.Admin...
Please don't get too caught up...it's sad to see people getting upset.
Maybe my lauguage skills are lacking or something, but I neither have the determination to read through the many posts there nor the concentration to follow and understand all the issues.
I wish everyone could be happy, and I do mean *everyone*. Hugs to (((((everyone))))) who wants a hug. :-)I'm thinking of getting some high speed internet (yes, I know I'm living in the stone ages with dial-up :-) )
I actually found myself with the will to actually do some research on ISPs today. :-)
I want to buy an iPod mini with the money I will make at my job...I think I want the blue colour.
Oh, it'll be so much fun and so exciting. :-)Now, I've just got to do my taxes!...Yes, that's right, my taxes! Fortunately I don't owe the government any money so I won't be fined for being late...it just means I won't receive my refund yet. I really should do it, I'd been putting it off 'cause of a combination of procrastination and thoughts of death.
Ok, it's way too hot to continue, so bye for now!
Deneb
Posted by Jazzed on June 13, 2005, at 20:29:57
In reply to So hot and muggy, admin, ramblings :-), posted by Deneb on June 12, 2005, at 21:26:42
It's so hot and humid here too. I don't like it at all, but I don't like winter because I don't like to go out in the cold. In this weather I go out in the morning and in the evening. If I go out during the day, it's with my kids and we try to do stuff in/with/near water. I love spring and fall because the weather is so nice.
I haven't been able to get through the questionable board either. I'm curious what the issues are, but maybe I don't want to know. It's esp. odd considering how well the other boards seem to run, and everyone seems to get along pretty well. Oh well....
BTW, high speed is awesome! And if you're just now doing your taxes, are you by any chance ADD?
LOL, big sign is procrastination!Keep cool, keep Hammy cool!
Jazzy
Posted by Deneb on June 13, 2005, at 20:59:53
In reply to Re: So hot and muggy, admin, ramblings :-), posted by Jazzed on June 13, 2005, at 20:29:57
> I love spring and fall because the weather is so nice.
I wish for the summer when it's winter, mostly cuz the days are so short.
> And if you're just now doing your taxes, are you by any chance ADD?
> LOL, big sign is procrastination!Heh, I don't think so...
If anything, I think sometimes I have the opposite of ADD, I concentrate so hard on one thing that I forget everything else.Once in kindergarten, I was so engrossed in what I was doing with some legos or something that I didn't even hear my name being called several times when it was time for me to paint something. I was very upset I missed painting time.
Sometimes I feel like my senses are overwhelmed when there are too many things going on...too many colours and things to look at.
Several times I missed my bus stop because I was daydreaming. :-)
When I had to wait for about 5 hours in the ER with my Mom about problems with her cast, I wasn't bored at all. I just sat there, motionless, daydreaming for hours and hours. I didn't even feel like making conversation with my Mom, she was disturbing my daydream. I don't tend to get very lonely. ;-)
I don't think there is a disorder that's the opposite of ADD though, so I guess I'm just quirky. :-)
I think my problem is avoidance...of life mostly.
Anxiety leads to the avoidance.
It's horrible really.
I do well as long as everything is going perfectly but once I mess up once I think my life is over and I avoid life.Deneb
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> Keep cool, keep Hammy cool!
> JazzyWill do! :-)
Posted by rainbowbrite on June 13, 2005, at 21:39:00
In reply to Re: ADD? what't the opposite of ADD? :-) » Jazzed, posted by Deneb on June 13, 2005, at 20:59:53
Posted by Sarah T. on June 14, 2005, at 2:18:55
In reply to So hot and muggy, admin, ramblings :-), posted by Deneb on June 12, 2005, at 21:26:42
> Admin...> Please don't get too caught up...it's sad to see people getting upset.> Maybe my lauguage skills are lacking or something, but I neither have the determination to read through the many posts there nor the concentration to follow and understand all the issues.> I wish everyone could be happy, and I do mean *everyone*. Hugs to (((((everyone))))) who wants a hug. :-)> > Deneb
Hello, Deneb.
I'm so glad you wrote that. I agree. I started to get enmeshed in one of the threads, and fortunately I stopped. Two things stopped me. The first, a few words from one of T.S. Eliot's poems: "Distracted from distraction by distraction." I had to admit that getting caught up in that would serve to distract me from what really matters to me right now. The second thing that went through my mind was a quotation I have up on my bulletin board that I took from the Woody Allen movie MANHATTAN. Granted, Woody Allen's personal life leaves much to be desired, but I still think he is a prolific, often brilliant writer. The passage from the movie occurs as Isacc, the character played by Allen, makes notes for his next writing project. He says he has "an idea for a short story about people. . . who are constantly creating these real unnecessary neurotic problems for themselves because it keeps them from dealing with more unsolvable, terrifying problems about the universe." It's really quite remarkable how the mind can distract itself, and even more remarkable how we rationalize those distractions.Putting ice on Hammy's cage sounds like a good idea. Air-conditioning for hamsters! I put ice in my cat's water dish so the water stays cool a bit longer than usual. This humidity is so oppressive, and it's lasted several weeks. I think the weather will improve in a couple of days, at least where I am, in the U.S.
Good luck on your taxes!
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on June 14, 2005, at 13:37:50
In reply to Re: So hot and muggy, admin, ramblings :-) » Deneb, posted by Sarah T. on June 14, 2005, at 2:18:55
Very interesting post. Thanks for this, lot's to ponder. "Distracted from distraction by distraction. Hmmm.. :)
And Deneb, don't worry to much about Hammy, they originate from the desert I think.>
> Hello, Deneb.
> I'm so glad you wrote that. I agree. I started to get enmeshed in one of the threads, and fortunately I stopped. Two things stopped me. The first, a few words from one of T.S. Eliot's poems: "Distracted from distraction by distraction." I had to admit that getting caught up in that would serve to distract me from what really matters to me right now. The second thing that went through my mind was a quotation I have up on my bulletin board that I took from the Woody Allen movie MANHATTAN. Granted, Woody Allen's personal life leaves much to be desired, but I still think he is a prolific, often brilliant writer. The passage from the movie occurs as Isacc, the character played by Allen, makes notes for his next writing project. He says he has "an idea for a short story about people. . . who are constantly creating these real unnecessary neurotic problems for themselves because it keeps them from dealing with more unsolvable, terrifying problems about the universe." It's really quite remarkable how the mind can distract itself, and even more remarkable how we rationalize those distractions.
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> Putting ice on Hammy's cage sounds like a good idea. Air-conditioning for hamsters! I put ice in my cat's water dish so the water stays cool a bit longer than usual. This humidity is so oppressive, and it's lasted several weeks. I think the weather will improve in a couple of days, at least where I am, in the U.S.
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> Good luck on your taxes!
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Posted by Jazzed on June 14, 2005, at 14:40:24
In reply to Re: ADD? what't the opposite of ADD? :-) » Jazzed, posted by Deneb on June 13, 2005, at 20:59:53
> I wish for the summer when it's winter, mostly cuz the days are so short.Me too, me too.
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> Heh, I don't think so...
> If anything, I think sometimes I have the opposite of ADD, I concentrate so hard on one thing that I forget everything else.Baby, that's called hyperfocusing, and it's a form of ADD! My husband gets so hyperfocused he doesn't hear the kids when they're melting down.
> Once in kindergarten, I was so engrossed in what I was doing with some legos or something that I didn't even hear my name being called several times when it was time for me to paint something. I was very upset I missed painting time.This is why girls are often missed (or misdiagnosed) when they actually have ADD. Very sad because they can be helped. The classic ADHD is hyperactive boys, the not as well known form is inattentive ADD, which is more common in girls. If you're at all interested check out www.addforums.com
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> Sometimes I feel like my senses are overwhelmed when there are too many things going on...too many colours and things to look at.OMGosh! This is SO me! My son is this way too.
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> Several times I missed my bus stop because I was daydreaming. :-)Inattentive ADD!
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> When I had to wait for about 5 hours in the ER with my Mom about problems with her cast, I wasn't bored at all. I just sat there, motionless, daydreaming for hours and hours. I didn't even feel like making conversation with my Mom, she was disturbing my daydream. I don't tend to get very lonely. ;-)OMGosh, do you see a T or a p-doc? How could they possibly overlook ADD?! This is SO classic for inattentive ADD!
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> I think my problem is avoidance...of life mostly.
> Anxiety leads to the avoidance.My doc just told me two weeks ago that anxiety keeps the ADD person focused, and we go from being anxious about one thing to another. We use it as a tool. I know it doesn't feel like much of a tool, but what you're saying is just so me, so ADD!
> It's horrible really.
> I do well as long as everything is going perfectly but once I mess up once I think my life is over and I avoid life.Yep, yep, that's me. Life is over at least once a day it seems, but I usually recover pretty quickly.
So, are you forgetful, procrastinate, have lots of projects going but often don't finish them, have anxiety and/or depression, low self esteem, don't feel that you've lived up to your potential, have a high IQ but were always told in school that if only you'd try harder blah blah blah, or that you're a nice girl but don't have much potential even though you have a decent IQ? If so, maybe some reading is in order. If you're interested that is. If you are get any books by Edward Hallowell, esp. Delivered from Distraction, and any books by Daniel Amen. Also, both have web sites. On the Amen clinic website they have a self screener.
Hope I wasn't too pushy!
Jazzed
Posted by Jazzed on June 14, 2005, at 14:41:48
In reply to Re: ADD? what't the opposite of ADD? :-) » Jazzed, posted by Deneb on June 13, 2005, at 20:59:53
Posted by Deneb on June 16, 2005, at 9:25:20
In reply to Re: ADD? what't the opposite of ADD? :-), posted by Jazzed on June 14, 2005, at 14:40:24
Hi Jazzed
Wow, thanks for the info, I had no idea. I don't know much about ADD/ADHD.
I DO have a lot of things I don't get done or put off to the last second. I've always done well in school though (except for when I started univesity.) I think my problem is one is discipline...without the detentions etc. for not doing homework/studying, I just tend not to do it! Then I have to cram! Cramming was ok in highschool since there are many little tests and there is a lot of time to learn along the way, but in university my grades are dependent upon a midterm and a final exam. If I don't study steadily throughout the year (and not just during exam times), I'm basically done for.
I DO think that sometimes having anxiety helps me not procrastinate. I did really well during the fall term and I wasn't on an SSRI. I would get anxious about upcoming tests way ahead of time. I studied accordingly.
Too much anxiety doesn't help though, like when I was terrified during my 6 hour cell bio lab...that messed my whole winter term (lead to my OD cuz I was so anxious to defer an exam).
So, I guess I really don't know if I have ADD. Is there any way to check this out using scans or something? I also have social anxiety at times. Maybe the social anxiety leads to me always living in my little inner world?
Anyways, thanks for the info again! It was very interesting.
Deneb
Posted by Jazzed on June 16, 2005, at 16:26:18
In reply to Re: ADD? what't the opposite of ADD? :-) » Jazzed, posted by Deneb on June 16, 2005, at 9:25:20
Hey Deneb,My daughter does the same thing you did in high school. She waits till the last minute to do her work, and then gets so anxious that she has to do it. The doctor, who specializes in ADD, said that anxiety is a motivator, and that doing that is very common. She gets distracted by all this other stuff, and homework is put off, and put off, until she can't put it off any longer. Her grades are great, but she's going into high school, and has NO time management skills, which she'll need because she'll be in all honors classes. I can't help her there because it's all I can do to manage myself!
I have anxiety too, and don't do many social things because of it, I hate to be in social situations. Anxiety and depression tend to be co-morbid with ADD, as well as other things like OCD and lower self esteem. Did you check out www.addforums.com at all? Lots of information there. And, if you want to self test, to see if you might have it, check out
the Amen clinic self test:
http://amenclinics.com/ac/tests/add_test1.phpsubtype test:
http://amenclinics.com/ac/tests/subtype_test1.phpThen if it looks like you might have ADD, and you need to find a specialist, and don't know of one, I'd go through CHADD first http://www.chadd.org/, or some other organization or adult ADD support group in your area, and if all else fails, maybe check out:
http://www.addreferral.com/
The only reason I say if all else fails is because one psychologist told me that this might not be the best place to get a legit referral for ADD/ADHD. I don't know. Some of the places in our area are good, but they don't have the best place listed.The meds can really help a lot. They motivate me and get me on track, I procrastinate less, can focus and prioritize better, and don't go off into la la land as much. My kids all do much better too, esp. my son who got a perfect report card last quarter after starting on meds.
Good luck, let me know if you go anywhere with all of this, and let me know how you do on the self test!
Jazzy
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