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Posted by kellyr on May 8, 2004, at 13:03:27
I don't think I ever be the same again, I'm feeling very down and i don't think i can get up anymore. my husband was layed off and my therapist wants me to go to the hospital again, without any insur. it hard to go i all ready owe the hospital $30,000 and if i go again it well be another $30,000, what do i do? i feel like killing myself would be easier then paying a hospital bill. help
Posted by gardenergirl on May 8, 2004, at 13:21:25
In reply to can't stand the way i FEEL!!, posted by kellyr on May 8, 2004, at 13:03:27
kellyr,
I'm so sorry you are feeling so much pain. I'm sure that bill at the hospital is really overwhelming. Please don't let that stop you from doing what you need to to get better. You might try contacting the hospital to see what kind of assistance programs there are for those in your situation. Many times, you can get special arrangements or even get the bill waived. If this is too much to do right now, maybe your husband can help make the call? Or your Mom?Please go to the ER if you are truly feeling like hurting yourself. Call your T. Make sure you get what you need, and da*n the bill for now.
((((((kellyr))))))
gg
Posted by Racer on May 8, 2004, at 14:36:54
In reply to can't stand the way i FEEL!!, posted by kellyr on May 8, 2004, at 13:03:27
I'm in the same boat with you, kiddo, if it helps any. Actually, if I thought that the hospital would offer any treatment at all, I'd be there right now. I'm uninsured, my husband was laid off two years ago, we have multiple bills from my most recent hospitalization, we've got more bills coming for tests on some tumors found on my liver, life sucks in a very big way, and the doctor I'm seeing doesn't bother to listen to me.
So, hey there ShipMate, here's a paddle. I'm gonna try to hold on a little, and maybe we can shoot the breeze while we paddle and bail.
By the way, most of my hospital bill was waived. You may have to go through the county system, rather than private, but it might be worth it. For me, just getting away from the immediate environmental stressors made a hell of a difference. Too bad they had to send me back to the same environment, huh? Same environment, same stressors, same result. But, I'm almost at the point of trying again. Sure, it may have the same result in the end: same deaf doctor, same lack of support, etc, but maybe some relief in the meantime, you know?
Good luck, and remember: if you don't paddle too, we'll just go around in circles.
Posted by deirdrehbrt on May 8, 2004, at 18:28:50
In reply to Here's a paddle » kellyr, posted by Racer on May 8, 2004, at 14:36:54
Kellyr,
I know how you feel. I'm on SSDI, and my medicaid only is open for about the last two weeks in a month. If I have to go to the hospital early in the month, the bill comes to me. I have tried on some occasions to put off going to the hospital, but that just isn't healthy.
You seem to know what you need, and when you need it. Please remember that the people who love you love you for a reason. I'm not suggesting that you need to stick around for them, that is just another burden that you don't need. What I'm saying is that they see something special in you. You have value, You are beautiful, and you are loved and wanted on this world.
The hosiptals ALL have programs for people who are unable to pay. If you contact the billing office, they will tell you how to go about it. Don't lose your life just because you may have financial difficulties, you are worth so much more than hospital bills.
Dee.
Posted by noa on May 8, 2004, at 23:23:40
In reply to can't stand the way i FEEL!!, posted by kellyr on May 8, 2004, at 13:03:27
Kelly, don't let the money get in the way of the care you need. Deirdre is right--YOU are worth way more than any hospital tab you might run up.
You're feeling awful--you need care and it sounds like the hospital is the best option.
Kelly--take care of yourself. We'll be praying for you.
Posted by Ivan Michael on May 11, 2004, at 10:34:16
In reply to can't stand the way i FEEL!!, posted by kellyr on May 8, 2004, at 13:03:27
wow. i don't know what i would do but please please please dont kill yourself. i know that life is reallie hard but please dont. you're worth more than $60,000. i know that i can't completelie comprehend what you are going through. i wish that i could help in some way. i wish that i could send monie or a letter or something but all i can do is type and pray. please be strong. we'd all miss you.
Posted by kellyr. on May 11, 2004, at 17:39:45
In reply to Here's a paddle » kellyr, posted by Racer on May 8, 2004, at 14:36:54
I'm sorry that your feeling down and that you think the hospital wouldn't help, i'm thinking the same way about the hospital, it helps why i'm there but a week or so goes by and i'm in the same boat. I don't know what to do, i can stay in the hospital for ever. my dr. raised my meds so i'll see how it goes. I see my T on thursday and well take it from there. thanks for the paddle
Posted by ghost on May 14, 2004, at 17:50:47
In reply to can't stand the way i FEEL!!, posted by kellyr on May 8, 2004, at 13:03:27
you can't put a price on a human life. you can't put a price on YOUR life. make arrangements to make payments if you have an income (and make those payments as TINY as they can be-- even $5/month is enough to show youre making an effort to most places). if you don't have an income, explain that too. explain you'll pay when you can (if that's an option), but remember the following:
1. they cannot take away your home or vehicle, unless it was used as collateral for the services/money rendered. (this is not the case for hospitals). they can't make you homeless. they can't take away your vehicle/means of getting to a job.
2. they cannot threaten to take your money or dock your checks. this needs to be done by a court, and the judge will always refer to number 1 above, and will never, EVER, rule your payments to be such that you cannot afford to provide your own food, clothing, and shelter (and healthcare). so even if you have collections at your door, just remember they can be as nasty as they want to be, but they canNOT take away your rights to food, clothing, and shelter.
3. feel free to tell them that. let them take you to court. let them realise that you can't afford your bills and let a judge step in and see your side-- he will make sure you're not breaking the bank to pay off healthcare bills you cannot afford.
...of course, its better if it doesnt go to court, but just remember that they cannot take away anything of yours. they can be mean, they can threaten you, but they can't DO anything. can't get blood from a stone, right?incidentally, if you have bill collectors calling you constantly, you have the right to tell them the refrain from contacting you by phone. it's a form of harassment, especially if they do it after you've asked them (politely) not to. most laws are written such that they can contact you by "reasonable" means-- constant phone calls and/or threatening to take away your money is not reasonable.
good luck. keep your chin up. money stresses me out almost daily. but don't let it hurt your health. in the end, it's all just stuff. there's always a way to work things out. let me know if you need any ideas or help, okay?
Posted by noa on May 14, 2004, at 19:17:41
In reply to Re: Here's a paddle » Racer, posted by kellyr. on May 11, 2004, at 17:39:45
Getting on line has been hard lately because of computer problems, but I just wanted to say hi, and I hope you are starting to feel better with increased meds.
:~)
Posted by kellyr. on May 15, 2004, at 21:59:32
In reply to Re: Here's a paddle » kellyr., posted by noa on May 14, 2004, at 19:17:41
> Getting on line has been hard lately because of computer problems, but I just wanted to say hi, and I hope you are starting to feel better with increased meds.
>
> :~)my computer was acting up this week too. i was starting to feel better w/ the med increased, then i started to go down hill again. i see the dr. for meds on monday. i cann't let her see me down or she'll send me to the hospital from her office again. my husband well get very mad if that happen again. I'm making him mad now cause i started to smoke again,smoke or die that's what it comes down to, now i know that it going to kill me in the long run but i worked at a nursing home for a couple of years to know that (i don't want to be old at all!). thanks for thinking of me and i hope everything is going better w/ you?
Posted by gardenergirl on May 16, 2004, at 0:31:57
In reply to Re: Here's a paddle » noa, posted by kellyr. on May 15, 2004, at 21:59:32
kellyr,
I hope your appt. Monday helps you on the path to feeling better. Please let us know. I'll be thinking of you.(((kellyr)))
gg
Posted by kellyr. on May 17, 2004, at 14:24:59
In reply to Hope Monday goes well, posted by gardenergirl on May 16, 2004, at 0:31:57
> kellyr,
> I hope your appt. Monday helps you on the path to feeling better. Please let us know. I'll be thinking of you.
>
> (((kellyr)))
>
> ggtoday i saw my dr. and she said if it gets as bad as sunday again to call her or go to the hospital. I didn't tell her that the feelings of killing myself didn't go away, and that i was planing to kill myself w/ all my klonpin, if i told her that she would of called the cops on me or not give me my meds. i'm not as suicidal as i was on sunday so i'll see how the week goes till i see my therapist on thursday.
Posted by noa on May 17, 2004, at 17:48:07
In reply to Re: Hope Monday goes well » gardenergirl, posted by kellyr. on May 17, 2004, at 14:24:59
Kelly, howabout asking your husband to hold onto the vials of medication so you only have a bit of it at a time, just in case?
Hang in there. I'm glad you're at least a tiny bit less suicidal today. I hope it gets better.
Posted by kellyr. on May 18, 2004, at 23:11:48
In reply to Re: Hope Monday goes well » kellyr., posted by noa on May 17, 2004, at 17:48:07
> Kelly, howabout asking your husband to hold onto the vials of medication so you only have a bit of it at a time, just in case?
>
> Hang in there. I'm glad you're at least a tiny bit less suicidal today. I hope it gets better.noa, i asked my husband to take the meds & put then somewhere else but he got some what bothered by me asking, he sayed that it would hurt him if i die but i think it would be a bother to him taking care of the kids. he didn't take the meds away or hide the gun. what do i do i can't go back to the hospital again, we talked to them about my bill of $30,000 & they said that we would have to pay 80% of the bill. do you see what i do to this family i can't kill myself and get it over w/ so i make more problems w/ bills & all. i'm sorry evryone
Posted by gardenergirl on May 19, 2004, at 0:17:33
In reply to going to overdose, posted by kellyr. on May 18, 2004, at 23:11:48
kelly,
I'm sorry you are feeling at such a low point and that you aren't feeling supported by your husband. What can you do to guarantee your safety for each day? Do you need to go to the ER? If so, scre# the bills. You can worry about them after you are well. You will certainly feel less overwhelmed then.Please do what you can to feel safe. Can you call someone and contract with them to hold your meds? What about the other stuff in the house that is dangerous? Can you get it out temporarily?
Please be safe. And keep posting if it helps.
((((kellyr))))
gg
Posted by EmmyS on May 19, 2004, at 0:20:08
In reply to going to overdose, posted by kellyr. on May 18, 2004, at 23:11:48
Kelly - I don't know you, but I see that you have lots of friends here at Babble who love you and are worried about you. Please remember that. They are wise people, and if they see something special in you, I believe them. Please try to believe them too.
There are ALWAYS other solutions. ALWAYS. Keep posting and we will help you one step at a time.
Emmy
Posted by Jai Narayan on May 19, 2004, at 7:41:52
In reply to Re: going to overdose, posted by EmmyS on May 19, 2004, at 0:20:08
My mother had to be hospitalized almost every year of my childhood and it was very expensive.
She was sucidal and we were little.
We ***all*** needed her to be stablized on the right meds and receiving the care that a hospital could provide.
My dad was somewhat clueless and did what he could but she needed more help than any of us could give her.
Please consider how very important you are in the lives of those around you.
We needed mom...
Yes, there were lean times when most of the bills were from the hospital but it was worth the cost of her health.
Posted by gardenergirl on May 22, 2004, at 7:51:19
In reply to hospital, posted by Jai Narayan on May 19, 2004, at 7:41:52
Kelly,
We haven't heard from you. I hope you are doing okay. Please post when you can.((((kellyr))))
gg
Posted by kellyr. on May 22, 2004, at 19:59:47
In reply to Kellyr, I hope you are somewhere safe, posted by gardenergirl on May 22, 2004, at 7:51:19
> Kelly,
> We haven't heard from you. I hope you are doing okay. Please post when you can.
>
> ((((kellyr))))
>
> ggstill here still not doing good had to go to a funeral she was only 15yr old. it made me think about myself if i died what it would be like for all that i leave behide. had a real close call last night my husband put the gun in the safe and i just sat and cried for hours none stop. i did talk w/ my husband and it helped.thank for thinking of me
Posted by gardenergirl on May 23, 2004, at 13:51:46
In reply to Re: Kellyr, I hope you are somewhere safe » gardenergirl, posted by kellyr. on May 22, 2004, at 19:59:47
Thanks for posting. I was worried. It sounds like things are rough, but that you are hanging in. I'm glad.
(((kellyr)))
gg
Posted by Noa on May 24, 2004, at 18:31:42
In reply to Re: Kellyr, I hope you are somewhere safe » gardenergirl, posted by kellyr. on May 22, 2004, at 19:59:47
Kelly, I've been offline for a while since my computer was in the shop. I hope you are ok today. I'm glad your husband put the gun in the safe.
Kelly, maybe the local mental health association can help you about hospitalization when you cannot pay the bill. If you need to be in the hospital to be safe, your safety is the most important thing, not the money.
Kelly, no matter how dark it seems, it is still really important to your family that you stay alive and get help. They love you!!
Kelly, please stay with us!!!
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