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Posted by Dinah on December 10, 2003, at 9:48:26
Work stress has caused blood sugar creep. Even though I haven't been eating badly for the last week or so my fasting blood sugar jumped 9 points. And work stress is just bound to get worse. So I guess it's back to Glucophage for me, feeling crummy all the time, and IBS. Sigh.
Happy happy joy joy. And I know my binges didn't help either. Totally joyless binges at that. Why do I overeat when I don't enjoy it much while I'm eating, I feel sick after, and I know it can cause me to have to go back on a medication I hated? I have this crazy notion that it's a self destructive urge. But I know rationally that doesn't make any sense. Diabetes isn't likely to kill me, just to disable me if I don't take care of it.
Ugh.
Posted by Penny on December 10, 2003, at 10:15:52
In reply to Ugh., posted by Dinah on December 10, 2003, at 9:48:26
> Work stress has caused blood sugar creep. Even though I haven't been eating badly for the last week or so my fasting blood sugar jumped 9 points. And work stress is just bound to get worse. So I guess it's back to Glucophage for me, feeling crummy all the time, and IBS. Sigh.
- I'm sighing for you...
> Happy happy joy joy. And I know my binges didn't help either. Totally joyless binges at that. Why do I overeat when I don't enjoy it much while I'm eating, I feel sick after, and I know it can cause me to have to go back on a medication I hated? I have this crazy notion that it's a self destructive urge. But I know rationally that doesn't make any sense. Diabetes isn't likely to kill me, just to disable me if I don't take care of it.
>
> Ugh.- I feel the same way - I don't have diabetes...yet. But I KNOW that I will most likely develop it if I don't change the way I eat, if I don't lose some weight, etc. My maternal grandmother is a type II diabetic, as is my father. And probably other family members I don't know about. And, yet, I've gained back the weight I lost (35 lbs) last time I was on Weight Watchers (earlier this year) and I continue to gain. I don't even weigh myself anymore - but I can tell by the way my clothes are ceasing to fit. Sigh again.
I tend to think this is my being self-destructive as well. Sometimes I think, "Ya' know - it's like slow suicide...I'm eating myself to death." Granted, I have a little way to go before actually eating myself to death, but when I think about all the diseases I'm increasing my risk for...well...
My therapist doesn't fully agree with this theory, though. I don't know if that's good or bad.
I don't know what to tell you about overeating...I binge all the time. There's an AA group that meets in a building down the road from my apartment...I wish there was an overeaters anonymous group that met there as well. Maybe I would find it helpful. I doubt it.
Sorry, I'm not much help. Not feeling very up today. But you're not alone.
Take care.
(((Dinah)))
P
Posted by fallsfall on December 10, 2003, at 10:36:44
In reply to Re: Ugh. » Dinah, posted by Penny on December 10, 2003, at 10:15:52
Dinah.
I know of someone who has diabetes, and she hasn't taken care of herself. She is now looking at a kidney transplant. Her family and friends are trying to raise an enormous amount of money for this transplant, and they are all very concerned.
So don't tell me you can't die from diabetes.
Please take care of yourself - for you, your husband, your son, Harry, the puppy, me, Babble...
Posted by Susan J on December 10, 2003, at 13:39:07
In reply to Ugh., posted by Dinah on December 10, 2003, at 9:48:26
Hi, Dinah,
> Work stress has caused blood sugar creep. Even though I haven't been eating badly for the last week or so my fasting blood sugar jumped 9 points. And work stress is just bound to get worse. So I guess it's back to Glucophage for me, feeling crummy all the time, and IBS. Sigh.
<<I'm sorry. It sux.
>>Why do I overeat when I don't enjoy it much while I'm eating, I feel sick after, and I know it can cause me to have to go back on a medication I hated?
<<Hah! When you find out why people overeat, lemme know. One thing that helps me is to make sure I eat in the same place, same time of day, every day. I have to sit and think about my meal before I eat it. And that way, I don't overeat. But it takes me a lot of effort/willpower to do. Fortunately, I got into that habit a few months ago when I was feeling good, so I had the energy to do it. So even though I'm feeling crummy right now, I still feel guilty if I try to eat out of my regimen. Sux it has to come to that, huh? A regimen....>> I have this crazy notion that it's a self destructive urge. But I know rationally that doesn't make any sense.
<< I don't think it's self-destructive, I think you just feel like doing something that feels good when the rest of life sux. It's interesting that it doesn't taste all that good to you or isn't satisfying. Are you eating sugary stuff? While I *think* I want that, I really don't, and it seems to make me want to eat more and more, and I never feel satisfied.Know what I'm hooked on now? A baby spinach salad with mandarin oranges, blue cheese crumbles, walnuts, and a vinagrette. It's absolutely yum yum! And it's healthy. And it satisfies me much better than M&Ms (my vice). I really look forward to eating it now. Amazing for me...but try it if it sounds good to you...
>> Diabetes isn't likely to kill me, just to disable me if I don't take care of it.
>
> Ugh.
<<Yeah, it's just tough to manage, I know (relatives). And just another issue to deal with when there are so many others in life.I'm thinking of you. I hope things get better and you can stay away from the meds you don't like.
Take care,
Susan
Posted by deirdrehbrt on December 11, 2003, at 19:10:55
In reply to Ugh., posted by Dinah on December 10, 2003, at 9:48:26
Dinah,
You have obviously been talking to your doctors, and they may have told you that the Diabetes won't kill you. They may well be right, but the hell that it can leave you in is far worse than anything you've experienced so far.
I have friends who are worried about whether or not they will have feet some years in the future. I had an aunt who died well into her 70's. That's about average for this area, but she was literally tortured by her multitude of ills. She lost one leg, then the next. Her eyesight was failing, and nearly gone. There were many other problems, and in the end it was systemic failure that was a secondary result of things that the Diabetes caused.
I don't want you to think that I don't think you aren't a bright, intelligent woman. It's obvious that you are. I just know that this disease is completely unforgiving of a lack of vigilance. Please take care of yourself, You are so very worth it.
Dee.
Posted by Dinah on December 11, 2003, at 19:28:56
In reply to Re: Ugh., posted by deirdrehbrt on December 11, 2003, at 19:10:55
I do know how debilitating it can be, how expensive for the family in more ways than one. My mother was a diabetic who never bothered taking care of herself. She just upped her insulin. Now at seventy some odd, she's lost most of one foot, had some serious GI problems, some kidney? problems, or maybe liver, and is now having to have surgery all the time for bleeding in her eyes. She has lost some of the independence that was the most important thing in the world to her.
I do know it's not as easy as eat too much and kill myself. But that's the underlying thought processes, I think. That I don't see why I should eat to take care of myself since, with recurring depressions, I often just don't want to be here.
I keep reminding myself that I'm being stupid. I'm not killing myself, I'm just making my life worse. And as I said, I'm not really enjoying the food so it's beyond me why I do it. There's a drivenness to it that has nothing to do with pleasure.
But I am trying to be good. I don't want to be a burden to my family.
Posted by Dinah on December 11, 2003, at 19:29:57
In reply to Re: Ugh. » deirdrehbrt, posted by Dinah on December 11, 2003, at 19:28:56
I did get my glucophage renewed so while I'll feel crummy from that, my health won't be in any danger.
Posted by deirdrehbrt on December 11, 2003, at 21:21:04
In reply to Re: Ugh. » deirdrehbrt, posted by Dinah on December 11, 2003, at 19:28:56
Dinah,
I know that you know what you are doing, and maybe it was presumptuous for me to list the things that you already know. I think though, that when people I admire do things to hurt themselves, be it through commission or omission, I feel that I need to say or do something.
Perhaps I should expend some of that energy on myself, but I think that everyone else deserves to be around much more than I. That aside, thank-you for the re-assurance that you'll be around for some time. I think that for as long have your wonderful mind, that you are not likely to be a real burden on anyone. With just a bit of effort and perserverance, you'll never have to find out.
Take care of you,
Dee.
Posted by Dinah on December 11, 2003, at 22:54:25
In reply to Re: Ugh., posted by deirdrehbrt on December 11, 2003, at 21:21:04
Not presumptuous at all. It's nice to know that people care. :) Thank you.
I got an extra little reminder tonight. My mom called. Her eye doctor thinks the diabetic retinopathy might have detached her retina and her vision is at risk. It is an insidious disease.
Posted by Dinah on December 13, 2003, at 9:54:52
In reply to Re: Ugh. » deirdrehbrt, posted by Dinah on December 11, 2003, at 22:54:25
Blood sugar 137 today. Haven't been eating badly because I haven't been feeling well. So it's back to IBS and feeling crummy I guess.
Whooppeeeee!
Posted by fallsfall on December 13, 2003, at 13:21:07
In reply to Back on glucophage today. :(, posted by Dinah on December 13, 2003, at 9:54:52
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