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Mercury and depression

Posted by Jason Lohr on July 27, 2001, at 12:08:16

Has anyone ever looked into heavy metal toxicity and depression/emotional problems...I have suffered severe depression for many years...and I was just test for heavy metals...my mercury levels were much higher than normal. There is a growing wealth of information out there implicating mercury toxicity (apparently from silver fillings in our mouths) to mental illness or problems. MS, chronic fatique, Parkinsons, Alzheimer's all are showing possible connections to mercury in the body.

Jason

 

Re: Mercury and depression

Posted by stjames on July 27, 2001, at 13:31:52

In reply to Mercury and depression, posted by Jason Lohr on July 27, 2001, at 12:08:16

> Has anyone ever looked into heavy metal toxicity and depression/emotional problems...

James here....

The tests for mercury are inaccurate and often used by quacks. If you had exposure to mercury
other than fillings, that would be a diffferent issue.

James

 

Re: Mercury and depression

Posted by Jason Lohr on July 27, 2001, at 23:49:03

In reply to Re: Mercury and depression, posted by stjames on July 27, 2001, at 13:31:52

> > Has anyone ever looked into heavy metal toxicity and depression/emotional problems...
>
> James here....
>
> The tests for mercury are inaccurate and often used by quacks. If you had exposure to mercury
> other than fillings, that would be a diffferent issue.
>
> James

James,

Its seems you have been mislead. I wonder if you have had any of these such "tests"...you are right, there is no definitive test for mercury. A long history, challenge tests, electro-dermal testing, along with 15 or so other diagnostic tests that, when taken together, can implicate mercury as a factor in mental illness.

Just wondering James...do you have amalgam fillings? Have you ever seriously looked into the issue?

Jason


 

Re: Mercury and depression » Jason Lohr

Posted by kazoo on July 28, 2001, at 0:22:23

In reply to Mercury and depression, posted by Jason Lohr on July 27, 2001, at 12:08:16

> Has anyone ever looked into heavy metal toxicity and depression/emotional problems...

^^^^^^^

These people have: (Vitamin Research Products) at http://www.vrpcentral.net/

At this site, look on the left hand side of the screen and click on "Library."
This will bring you to a site search engine.
In "General Search," enter "mercury" and click on "Start Search now" (or just hit the Enter key).
Click on the title "Mercury: A 21st Century Killer, Part I" (it's a two-part article).

I would have posted the link, but the site is protected.

kazoo

 

Re: Mercury and depression

Posted by Andy123 on July 29, 2001, at 14:35:06

In reply to Re: Mercury and depression » Jason Lohr, posted by kazoo on July 28, 2001, at 0:22:23

> > Has anyone ever looked into heavy metal toxicity and depression/emotional problems...
>
> ^^^^^^^
>
> These people have: (Vitamin Research Products) at http://www.vrpcentral.net/
>
> At this site, look on the left hand side of the screen and click on "Library."
> This will bring you to a site search engine.
> In "General Search," enter "mercury" and click on "Start Search now" (or just hit the Enter key).
> Click on the title "Mercury: A 21st Century Killer, Part I" (it's a two-part article).
>
> I would have posted the link, but the site is protected.
>
> kazoo

Hi Guys,
The compound they say will cheleate mercury out of the body is a simple one - 2,3 dimercaptosuccinic acid. For anybody familiar with organic chemistry, this is more easily understandable as 1,2 Ethane-dicarboxylic acid that has subsitutions of -S-H on the two middle carbons on the 4 carbon skeleton. Its totally symmetric and there is no stereogenic center... these two facts add up to this compound being very easy to make and it should therefor be very cheap.
I have several mercury fillings, and I'm sure that they contribute in some small way to my depression. I don't for a second believe that it is the main contributor to my mental illness. They say that a few micrograms a day are sublimating from fillings. This is a pretty small amount, and your body definitely has tricks in removing mercury.
By the way, Kazoo, thanks a bunch for posting that!
Andy

 

Re: Mercury and depression

Posted by stjames on July 29, 2001, at 22:12:10

In reply to Re: Mercury and depression, posted by Jason Lohr on July 27, 2001, at 23:49:03

> James,
>
> Its seems you have been mislead.

james here....

Sorry, I am not being mislead, have read a lot on this. It quackery, still.

James

 

Re: Mercury and depression » stjames

Posted by Jason Lohr on July 30, 2001, at 17:28:49

In reply to Re: Mercury and depression, posted by stjames on July 29, 2001, at 22:12:10

> James,

What have you read. If you have read what I have read, it would seem obvious that mercury can cause many problems with the body, including the brain.

I just took a DMPS challenge test. DMPS is one of the provacating agents used to "test" mercury levels in the urine. I agree, its not a perfect test. At any rate, the test made me feel better for about 6 hours. Nothing pronounced, I just was feeling better. The next morning and day was horrendous. Extreme agiation, head pain, suicidal thinking, ect. Generally, it is accepted that if mercury is not effecting the central nervous system, then a provocation test like a DMPS challenge will not create a feeling of wellness followed by a worsening of symptoms.

In my case, the DMPS came in, stirred some mercury up, and then dumped again, creating the crash.

I'm not trying to argue here, but I just speak from my own experience.

Jason


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