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Posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2019, at 16:03:30
Samoa is a country (a kingdom) in the South Pacific. I recently learned this. I know that there are quite a few Pacific Islanders living in New Zealand and that Samoans probably have the largest presence here, numbers-wise. Particularly in South Auckland.
I think immigration used to be encouraged. Perhaps still is. For young men. Construction work. Things like that. People send money back home.
There is a King. Apparently you don't question the King. It isn't part of the culture...
It seems to me that the people are not free.
You look at the castle and so on that the King has and you consider how many of the people in Samoa live. The conditions. The poverty.
They are in the midst of a measles epidemic. The sort that the MMR vaccine is supposed to prevent. The rates of vaccination got very very low and now there is an epdemic. Many children have died.
The international response...
Apparently tourists are asked to be vaccinated, or somesuch. Not REQUIRED to be vaccinated. Not REQUIRED to provide evidence of vaccination before entry.
I suppose those tourist dollars just mean that much.
Residents / inhabitants are now being required to be vaccinated. Children first. Then elderly. It is a military thing. No informed consent. I don't know if there are people living in Samoa for whom the vaccination is contra-indicated. Let's see... It's a live attenuated vaccination. That is apparently okay to give to people who are HIV + with T cell counts of less than... I don't remember... Which suggests to me that risk of reversion is low? Actually, I don't know... Actually... I should shut up right now. I am still learning...
But I don't feel right at all about people being forced or required to be vaccinated.
It seems that the people of Samoa are not free. I don't know if the people in Samoa... The families.. Are held as hostages, rather. So the men send the money back home. I don't know how much of the money sent back home gets to the people back home vs how much is appropriated by officials to further the inequality.
The idea that it is culturally inappropriate to question the authority, somehow, appears to me to be nothing other than an excuse for lack of freedom and oppression.
I feel so very very sad about all the people who are signing up to be 'volunteers' to travel to Samoa and 'help' by immunising people and the like. It has basically resuled in a massive tourist bonanza. I don't know how many people have gone travelling to Samoa because of this. I wonder how business is doing in the casinos (whatever form that may take) and the brothels. I don't know how much disease will increase for all the unvaccinated arrivals looking to profiteer off of those who are presently being advertised as the most vulnerable.
And in the midst of this there will be Pacific Island Doctors. People who were picked out and trained. People who believe they are now required to go back home and vaccinate people against their will.
That's a horrible position to be in.
They shouldn't be required -- should they? There is no shortage of volunteers.
I suppose only treat the involuntary...
The natural extension of that would be only the involuntary should be forced to treat the involuntary.
Sigh.
Why have so many people invested in making things worse?
My heart goes out to the people of Samoa.
I can't imagine much of anything worse than having to interact with these awful leaders who blindly and stupidly lead their people to worse and worse and worse futures...
I simply don't understand why they aren't thinking 'somewhere in teh world there is an aged care institution with my name on it'. Only I suppose they don't have the cognitive capacity for that.
Someone has to work in that aged care institution.
It is like the prodigal son thing.
I don't know.
Tis a nasty business.
I guess you just decide what role you want to play and try and do that.
I don't know why people want to be head of the rubbish. It is so very very very very very sad.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2019, at 16:05:27
In reply to the people of Samoa, posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2019, at 16:03:30
Oh.
The NZ response.
That was my thought. See how NZ responds to those who are misfortunate. The underdogs. The victims. Whatever.
Then various 'players' (so to speak) on the world stage can assess the kind of response we deserve when misfortune hits us, as it inevitably will, at some point.
Sigh.
We can't even calculate a GPA.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2019, at 16:07:54
In reply to Re: the people of Samoa, posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2019, at 16:05:27
For so long the narrative has been 'bring us the money. what can you do to bring us more money'.
But that's not sustainable.
The narrative needs to be switched out to 'what you need to do in order to keep the money you have been given already / the money you have got'.
Your Job.
Being the top one. I mean... If you aren't doing the most basic things you are required to do then you don't get the associated pay-check. Because that was what the money was for.
If the University is taking students money and not grading their work... If the University is not giving people who have done the work degrees and not refraining from giving degrees to people who have not done the work...
Then they don't get the money.
No money for them.
Give the money back.
What did you do with all the money?
Where did it go?
You anti-grew it.
You burned it.
WTF.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2019, at 16:35:10
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2019, at 16:07:54
I wonder how prevalent anemia of chronic disease is in the people of Samoa.
I don't know when live attenuated vaccinations are supposed to be given... Whether they are supposed to be given before maternial IGG is depleted or in the period when their natural immunity is lowest to strengthen the immune system or once their immune system has started developing / strengthing on its own...
I do wonder how much vaccinations are responsible for making epidemics worse rather than better.
Like arsenic for syphilis or whatever.
Since every batch of vaccination is different.
Since natural immunity differs.
Since some leaders are willing to offer their people up for sums of money. Basically.
Willing to donate the brains of the members of their tribe. Even after being informed that they are likely brain damaged. Even after they accept that fact. They don't put the 2 and 2 together to go 'gee, maybe decision making should be passed to someone else'.
Sigh.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2019, at 22:40:11
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2019, at 16:35:10
https://www.immune.org.nz/hot-topic/infant-deaths-samoa-tragic-outcome-error-preparing-mmr-vaccine
I get beamed up at some point -- right?
Posted by sigismund on December 11, 2019, at 16:43:57
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2019, at 22:40:11
I'm forgetting my vaccines, but when our son was vaccinated around 30 years ago I was disturbed by his reaction to it. This only lasted a day or two. He seemed altered. Various improvements have been made, I expect. We increased the time between the vaccines to be on the safe side.
So many different islands. The names changed. Then I started to go vague more recently.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 17:02:02
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by sigismund on December 11, 2019, at 16:43:57
yeah.
it is hard to know about vaccinations. so much politicking and misiformation and all that.
there has been a temptation to present the anti-vaccers in a very negative light and to be overly dismissive of what i think are some very genuine concerns.
i was surprised when i got the flu vaccination to basically end up mostly in bed with what felt to me to be a low level flu over the next couple days. Apparently that is a normal / common response / reaction to the flu vaccination.
i cant' remember the last time i got the flu...
i haven't been sick in years and years. once i quit smoking and my immune system had seen most things under the sun my health is really robust these days. but the flu vaccine wiped me.
whatever batch it is that we distribute to the homeless in Auckland City.
my more recent experience of how we basically seem to go out of our way to select for psychopaths to study medicine doesn't have me feel particularly like the medical establishment (in this country at least) has the health of the population in mind.
my experience of general and public health seminars and the like in Otago were very much 'us vs them' mentality and the people who use the public health system were very much the 'them'. that hasn't inspired me to think that the general practitioners in New Zealand have much of any concern for the 'other' who they are spend .2 of a job doing stuff to... or whatever it is that they do...
not particularly motivating or inspiring.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 17:15:03
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 17:02:02
It is so sad because, it seems to me, it is about lack of access to birth control.
Of course I understand that some women do think that having a baby will be the solution to all their problems and they pursue that...
But I think that quite a lot more than we think would prefer not to have babies and yet they find themselves in the position where they are with child.
Then issues around them not having access to the things to end it. Instead they are supposed to be violated by a health professional (if they are to be allowed to end it at all)...
And so this disease thing is a way of keeping the population in check.
The carrying capacity of Samoa given the conditions under which the people live.
And it is awful politics of people wanting to be the head / boss of others instead of allowing them to make their own choices.
And it is typically the women and children who suffer the most.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 17:24:56
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 17:15:03
And the ineptitude and incompetence of the people who have nothing better to do all day but go about bossing other people about. Who are too stupid to see that no good comes of it. That for all their bossing nothing is produced. No good is done in the world. That all their bossing is doing is preventing the people from going about their business which would have more liklihood of better outcomes than the status quo.
It makes me so f*ck*ng mad.
Coming back to this hell hole and watching it go down the toilet. I think things have gotten worse and worse and worse every year since I came back, here.
All and only the people without capacity promoted to positions of power where they have all the money all the resources and bitch and whinge and moan about how the problem is that nobody listens to them...
You have to be f*ck*ng kidding me.
I was reading something in the paper today about how the people in charge of writing NCEA mathematics examinations are basically not competent in the task. Not for lack of trying. Many meetings, I am sure, but they simply cannot write good questions. Then the grading schedule allows for only one way of solving the problem and studnets will be marked incorrectly if they (for example) solve the problem using algebra becuase the calculus problem didn't require calculus for the solution). And about how every paper has 5 sets of eyes on it and that doesn't solve the basic problem of inempt people writing the exam and devising stupid grading criterion.
it was kind of interesting for me to read that. i thought people liked to do maths because either your proof / way of solving worked, or it didn't. it wasn't the case that you could be failed because of the stupidity of the grader. only apparently that isn't so. you can in fact be failed becuase of the stupidity of the f*ck*ng task that was set and the stupidity of the allowable solutions. New Zealand has even managed to f*ck up assessing competence in mathematics.
in the arts / social sciences / humanities it is becoming increasingly common for teachers to not know how to reference. they become over-focused on details of referencing. failing students for not putting a full stop in the right place. they have lost the basic insight of WHEN you are supposed to have a reference. Of WHY you are supposed to reference (to provide some further support of your claim that is likely to be controversial) and to basically understand that the point of referencing 'properly' is to give the reader the information they need to locate the f*ck*ng thing you are referring to. that is teh point of it. to provide enough information so that they can find the relevant bit of what you have referenced in a timely fashion.
instead we have universities advertising 'top 1 percent of universities'. no reference. no ability to reference. no ability to do mathematics. no ability to distinguish marketing / advertising from information.
they take government money and they confer degrees (only usually to the most incompetent).
they take international students money.
how can these practices be condoned, at all?
what a f*ck*ng joke.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 17:33:20
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 17:02:02
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/campus/university-of-otago/graduation-enhanced-special-gown
uh, i don't think anybody told her that when you graduate from x university then you wear the gown that is the 'uniform' of the graduates from x university.
you don't get to wear the gown of your ancestor who graduated from a different university unless you, too, went to that same university.
uh, pretty sure.
ffs
Posted by sigismund on December 11, 2019, at 19:20:38
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 17:24:56
>they take international students money.
Students come here to study business or (god help me) even cooking, mainly perhaps to get into the country, based on some rather optimistic ideas about what Australia has to offer. So they work in bars part time and hopefully don't get murdered by the police as happened to some Brazilian kid in Sydney.
Posted by sigismund on December 11, 2019, at 20:28:26
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 17:33:20
When I was at university all the blokes seemed to have vasectomies, no one got married, let alone hens and bucks parties (!), and no one went to graduation.
Real respect went to the med graduates who had bothered to learn German so they could read Das Kapital in the original.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 21:48:49
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by sigismund on December 11, 2019, at 19:20:38
Yes, I remember a while back reading an article in ''The Conversation'' or similar about a similar problem in Australia.
Macquarie seemed to be in a similar position. Concern about setting the bar low. Then concern about whether there even was a bar.
We don't often hear about how they fail out their most capable people. We lament the stupid they hail as the best -- but we don't often hear about how they fail out their most capable people.
Edu-tourism. Yeah. It is a way into the country. Then after you have resided for however long you are resident. Smooths / paves the way to citizenship. Especially if you add the possibility of marrying a local at some point during your studies.
New Zealand marketed itself as a destination for Edu-tourism. It is embarrassing really but (amongst other things) we marketed ourself as setting the bar for entry lower than any other English Speaking nation. Requiring less points. The value of the dollar made New Zealand attractive, too. One of the marketing ideas was to make it a destination ESL country. To basically say that we would take people who didn't speak English if they paid us to teach them English.
It started with home placements. So people got to live with a family maybe with a kid their age. Learn English by total immersion. But then it became about living in a high rise slum in a tiny (maybe even shared) room with 16 people to a bathroom or something equally atrocious. TO study English with people who don't speak it or know it. To be with a bunch of other students from ones home country so no opportunity to speak it with locals, at all. Then the exams are stupid exams that I (as a native English speaker) would no doubt fail.
So we intentionally marketed ourself as a desination launching pad here to learn English so people would have the points to aim higher -- to Australia or Canada or the UK or the USA. And of course a bunch of degenerates and terrorists and the like took us up on that.
And hard working honest people too, of course. And people who just wanted the OE and liked the idea of being rich in this country... And... Whatever.
I know things are bad in Australia. ANd in parts of the US. And so on. But it really really really really does seem to me that things are so very very very very very much worse here.
But maybe it was that other countries treated me better for the time I was in them. I didn't see the worst of it.
But New Zealand... Hasnt' had meaningful employment for me, at all. New Zealand... Has kept me in slum... Has refused to acknowledge the things I've done (while simultaneously stealing them and passing them off as the ideas of others)...
Doesn't listen to a f*ck*ng word I say...
Isn't capable of reading the reports of examiners external to the University.
Isn't capable of generating a true and accurate transcript of a students study...
But then I can walk by the Harbour... All the new housing (largely empty) that is built for the Americas cup. All the restaurants and bars and paved shared walkways and apartments... The people of New York or Connecticut or Rhode Island or f*ck*ng wherever wanted summer houses in the middle of their winter all the way down in this part of the world...
All the intellectual property they collect up from turnitin...
Sure...
Come get it.
It's there for the taking.
All the empty apartments.
And all the pretty suburbs surrounding the inner city ghetto.
All the pretty houses for all the pretty people who have all the money and the power and the jobs...
People seem to have it really good, here.
So many people seem to hvae it really really really very good here
So.
I don't know.
Apparently if you pay to see a specialist you even get to by-pass the wait list for timely public care. Of course, that's how that works. Did you now if you have health insurance then the St John's amubulance might even triage you to hospital ER. Instead of after hours medical clinic where you are sent a $50 or $70 dollar bill for the after hours medical care. Or maybe you have to pay St Johns $700 per year for the appropriate triage of your medical emergency, I can't remember. I think you can pay them a premium so you have door to door delivery for your hospital appointment. I mean they will literally come to your door and carry you and you can even lie on a stretcher and they will chat to you all the way there...
Like teh US maybe 30 or 40 years ago where they check your wallet to see your insurer so they ambulance knows whether to take you to hospital and which hospital to take you to... Whether to simply turn on the sirens and get the hell out of there...
I guess they know your area code when you call and ask for ambulance.
Like how they turn the power off to certain special areas of the country first. Where they decide the people matter the least.
Not because they contribute the least to the running of this country. Often time (seems to me) they actually contribute the most.
The people building the buildings. NO health insurance. No healthcare (triaged lower than everybody else I'd imagine). The people building the roads. All the aesbestos and chemicals poured on the roads... And so on...
While the idiots in charge collect up all the resources and have all the power (literally)...
While health, education, social and economic development everything everything everything swampy swamp swamp.
At least that's how it is for me.
I am not valued here.
It isn't fair that I was born to here. I am not valued here, at all.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 21:53:56
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 21:48:49
You want to live somewhere with a first class billings department.
Then when people cry awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww help me!!!!!!
You can go 'why, of course! go chat to billings and when you are ready we can get started'
And then you can do your job and trust that people really very good at their job know how to figure out a price that is fair.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 21:59:46
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 21:53:56
There is some White Island Volcanic Explosion terrible thing that happened. Killed a bunch of tourists.
New Zealand should look to Interlarken Sweden for precedent of what is fair.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 22:02:50
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 21:59:46
It killed my brother.
But I suppose the settlement was out of court and we signed something to say we wouldn't dislose what it was to third parties.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 22:53:02
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 22:02:50
Actually, apologies, the gown happens as a matter of fact to the be the correct color for the Otago PhD.
Posted by beckett2 on December 12, 2019, at 18:53:33
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2019, at 22:02:50
> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/switzerland/1364737/Canyon-girls-hit-by-wall-of-water.html
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> It killed my brother.
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> But I suppose the settlement was out of court and we signed something to say we wouldn't dislose what it was to third parties.
I had read about this. I'm sorry Alex.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2019, at 19:50:19
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand » alexandra_k, posted by beckett2 on December 12, 2019, at 18:53:33
Thanks, Beckett. It was years ago, now, but pretty hard to deal with at the time, for sure.
My brother was a really terrific human being. He did really well to put up with a kid sister 10 years his junior. I remember I loved playing with him. We would play cricket and kick around in swimming pools of various sizes. Splashing about or swimming underwater or diving or whatever. He was really very good to me.
I am going slightly mad because my motorcycle died. The motor can't run the headlight so it failed its warrant of fitness. My mother said she would help me out with another but then I got to thinking about bicycles... Anyway... She said it would help things with her if we waited until the end of this month. So I have no motorcycle and no bicycle and I'm going mad feeling stuck in the ghetto in the sweltering heat.
It's not sweltering -- but it it very warm. And with no air conditioning that means opening all the windows / door. And I am right by the ER so helecopters and sirens. And I am right by a hilly road with lights. So motorcycles revving and trucks revving (sounds like) from the lights to accelerate up the hill from a stop.
And waiting on Med. And feeling incredulous that Waikato is pretending to be too stupid to parse reports of examiners and incredulous that they haven't processed my Degree properly. And wondering if Auckland has the same planned for me for Med, again.
And I'm f*ck*ng livid that it feels engineered, somehow, for me to be like 'oh, maybe they will choose to fail me' so I am supplicant and help-seeking.
And I am angry that they would intentionally not do their jobs in order to induce that...
That if they don't see an expression of that then they would actually just refuse to process my Degree.
Angry that they would think that that performance (not doing their job in a timely fashion) would have anybody want to join them.
It is a strange thing...
My sister said about my niece that she remembers being given quite a hard time when she was coming through (medical imaging). Many people were unnecesssarily mean. She is kind to the students because she remembers how that felt.
I said to my sister that it turns out that attitude is rare. Most people put up with the nastiness clinging to the thought that they will get to join them and inflict the same trauma on the next generation.
Awful people.
Sigh.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2019, at 19:54:43
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2019, at 19:50:19
Anyway, I am supposed to hear by the 20th whether I am in or not.
And I can't apply again anywhere in NZ (unless I appeal it in court, or whatever).
I was supposed to supply evidence of having completed a degree in the minimum time within the last 5 years from a NZ University by end November.
Only, people don't complete graduate research degrees in the minimum time because the Universities refuse to process the work and withhold the Degree until they have extorted additional fees.
Apparently this is totally normal or whatever.
So they can spend the year in many many many many meetings deciding whether they would have me join them or whether they would bully me out of the field by simply stealing my stuff (my intellectual property) and not giving me my degree.
I see my ideas are becoming old now, already.
Mainstream.You're welcome.
Posted by beckett2 on December 12, 2019, at 21:08:19
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2019, at 19:54:43
> Anyway, I am supposed to hear by the 20th whether I am in or not.
> And I can't apply again anywhere in NZ (unless I appeal it in court, or whatever).
> I was supposed to supply evidence of having completed a degree in the minimum time within the last 5 years from a NZ University by end November.
> Only, people don't complete graduate research degrees in the minimum time because the Universities refuse to process the work and withhold the Degree until they have extorted additional fees.
> Apparently this is totally normal or whatever.
> So they can spend the year in many many many many meetings deciding whether they would have me join them or whether they would bully me out of the field by simply stealing my stuff (my intellectual property) and not giving me my degree.
> I see my ideas are becoming old now, already.
> Mainstream.
>
> You're welcome.
>
>
>Have you had the interview you mentioned on the social page? (I read it today.)
I have my fingers crossed for you!
Posted by beckett2 on December 12, 2019, at 21:21:19
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2019, at 19:50:19
People here seem pleased with electric bicycles. Just mentioning. Sorry you can't get about.
Both my parents are gone, but I haven't lost a sibling. I imagine it's pretty tough. I'm the oldest of a small flock and have many memories of playing, bossing around and caring for my siblings.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2019, at 22:17:58
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand » alexandra_k, posted by beckett2 on December 12, 2019, at 21:08:19
Yes, I had the interview.
It went better than I feared it would.
I did not feel / display anger at / to the interviewers, I don't think.
I was told last year that I did better than average for other applicants of my category (general graduate). They did not say how much better.
I think I did better this year than I did last year.
Last year I messed up the role play station. I was perhaps a little disconnected in the next couple because of it. Not because of feeling upset / emotion dysregulation but because I mis-interpreted the purpose / point of the role play station. I thought it was interpersonal skills / empathy / communication but it was how much you wanted to do Med. They wanted me to be more forceful, I mean to say. Not 'there there feel better' but 'you should never ever ever ever ever even think of dropping out of Med not for any reason at all'.
Sometimes questions just disconnect a little.
The next station, too. He wanted me to sign the praises of the NZ system of accreditation and I just couldn't do that. Fortunately recent events in NZ meant that topic wasn't on the agenda.
There was a nice seeming lady who said she was an anesthetist. I got to tell her I wanted to be a surgeon.
Otherwise it's hard because I feel like there is a huge push towards general practice / public health and you sort of aren't allowed to say that you want to do surgery or be a specialist. I feel that I was failed out of public health before because I was honest with them about how I wanted to be a surgeon. And they were all like 'we can't afford surgeons' and 'the people don't need surgeons they need mothers and you would make a good mother and then we won't have to pay you' and so on...
So it was nice to have her (whether she was an anesthetist or was role playing one makes no difference it gave me permission to speak).
I disconnected with the volunteering lady.
But that helped me see what went wrong with Otago. The interview panel was anglican church. Hospice / St John volunteering. Things like that. The volunteering people don't like me. I don't think much of rattling a tin for a board of directors and the fact that in NZ charity is a way to avoid paying taxes is all. Our charities are multi million or billion or whatever dollar businesses. Helping themselves more than anybody else.
Not a bad disconnect... But there was a disconnect. Then near the end she tried to ask me something but couldn't ask... I don't know what it was.. Maybe it was for comment on my thoughts on volunteering overseas...
The last guy basically asked me my thesis question.
I said a few things that... May or may not be accepted.
We can agree to disagree...
But the fact that I said what I thought (when asked specifically)...
I don't know.
I think they went fairly well. Really well in a couple / few, at least. Not badly in any.
The other component is the UCAT. They did the UMAT before and told me I scored just a little below average. Which makes a mockery of the test, I think. ANyway... I don't know how well I did. I think they teased different skills / abilities out better than the UMAT. I think I did fairly well / very well on verbal comprehension and quite well in verbal reasoning. Not sure I got any of the maths questions correct. Maybe okay in data analysis. Completing the pictures... I don't know that I got a single one of those, either. I felt like I guessed them all.
I am supposed to feel like it is a matter of luck. I think that is the idea. I am supposed to feel like it is a matter of luck.
But it is about making people apply the maximum number of times...
Otago interviewed me because last minute flights and accommodation was a tourist boost to the region. I wouldn't have bothered interviewing at all if I had have known they would refuse to consider my GPA when they were deciding on places. I knew the 'alternative' category allowed for people to have other things factored in... VOlunteering experience. Marrying a doctor and so on... But I didn't realise that GPA wouldn' tbe considered at all (apparently because some people didn't have one therefore nobody's GPA was allowed to count because that wouldn't have been fair).
They just do whatever the f*ck they want.
Seems to be what they intentionally want to beleive about themselves / convey to others.
It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Disgust.
But the interview was okay. It was okay last year, too. The people seemed decent. Good people. Stark contrast to the rest of the process...
I just feel like a f*ck*ng idiot that I came back here at all to do Med. I know people thought I was a fool -- but people didn't know my GPA. I didn't know that my GPA is actually irrelevant, though. They will just not consider it if they don't want to. And now the University of Waikato has set about generating false transcript after false transcript after false transcript for me... THey seem to be basically saying that they can just say 'no she didn't go here' if someone checks on my qualifications. That actually seems to be how corrupt things are, here.
THe theses aren't being lodged where the theses are supposed to go.
They aren't *burning* the books they are *refusing to bind and lodge the books*.
F*ck*ng anti-university.
F*ck*ng joke.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2019, at 22:31:38
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2019, at 22:17:58
There was ethics too. In the UCAT.
It was a lot easier for me to get behind / convey British ethical / moral sensibility than whatever it was the Australians wanted to see.
The cultural norm in NZ / Australia is that it is acceptable to basically say that you don't have a moral / ethical sensibility. People are very upfront open and honest about it. People don't feel that they need to conceal it, at all. People just say 'this is the way things are here it is our cultural norm' or whatever. What are you going to do about it? Just so long as someone else is worse than them they feel that they can just ride the slipstream. They just hide in packs or groups.
Medical students aren't any kind of exception. Are perhaps worse than the norm, even.
I think there is some truth to the idea that they intentionally select for psychopathy.
I think people here really truly and genuinely thought that we couldn't afford to train / hire specialists and there was a shortage of GPs. But it seems to me GPs have been holding back the development of medicine in NZ. They don't want to put forward capable people. They want the people to be chucked back and down... Back to them... Back to their secluded communities where they reign with all the money all the power all the resources and about .2 of a job.
To whinge and bitch and moan about how there aren't enough of them (with only .2 of a job).
To not process the applications of people wanting to become GPs...
Posted by beckett2 on December 13, 2019, at 0:25:21
In reply to Re: the people of New Zealand, posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2019, at 22:31:38
> There was ethics too. In the UCAT.
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> It was a lot easier for me to get behind / convey British ethical / moral sensibility than whatever it was the Australians wanted to see.
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> The cultural norm in NZ / Australia is that it is acceptable to basically say that you don't have a moral / ethical sensibility. People are very upfront open and honest about it. People don't feel that they need to conceal it, at all. People just say 'this is the way things are here it is our cultural norm' or whatever. What are you going to do about it? Just so long as someone else is worse than them they feel that they can just ride the slipstream. They just hide in packs or groups.
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> Medical students aren't any kind of exception. Are perhaps worse than the norm, even.
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> I think there is some truth to the idea that they intentionally select for psychopathy.
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> I think people here really truly and genuinely thought that we couldn't afford to train / hire specialists and there was a shortage of GPs. But it seems to me GPs have been holding back the development of medicine in NZ. They don't want to put forward capable people. They want the people to be chucked back and down... Back to them... Back to their secluded communities where they reign with all the money all the power all the resources and about .2 of a job.
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> To whinge and bitch and moan about how there aren't enough of them (with only .2 of a job).
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> To not process the applications of people wanting to become GPs...
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>An ethics part? If someone is a psychopath, they know what to say. You seem to actually have ethics. That can make things more difficult.
I'm glad your interview went better this time.
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