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Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:59:26
In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:31:33
John Curtin in WWII used to end his speeches with 'God bless you all', which was nice, inclusive and sincere, different from how it would sound today, sanctimonious and divisive.
Posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 14:40:38
In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:59:26
As good an occasion as any. I don't know if it's a good version. I see it is Strange Fruit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Web007rzSOI
When she sang it everything in the club was stopped, the lights were out except for the spotlight, and the show stopped after that.
Posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:38:44
In reply to Re: Modern History » Beckett2, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:06:45
> I must watch. Some things I read in the madrugada make me laugh like that and this.......
>
> You think this impeachment is a LYNCHING? tweeted the Illinois representative Bobby Rush. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you know how many people who look like me have been lynched, since the inception of this country, by people who look like you. Delete this tweet.
>
> He didn't even say what the heck.
>Yes, I read this. Crazy, huh?
Similarly for your amusement (short clip from c span) a personal attorney for trump argues the case for presidential immunity. It's under three minutes.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4824386/lawyer-argues-president-trump-prosecuted-office-shoots
> It's Billy Holiday with Bitter Fruit, no? I read about how her act got to be performed. The whole thing sounded reverential.I'll need to listen again. Many years ago I think was the last time. Just chilling. I can only imagine the performance. Her life was filled with suffering. What an amazing voice and performer.
Posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:46:18
In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:09:10
> >What the hell is wrong with you?
>
> What's wrong with what? Narcissism doesn't quite cover it.You're making me laugh :)
Posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28
In reply to Re: Modern History, posted by sigismund on October 22, 2019, at 13:31:33
> I'd like to mention the systematic encouragement of indifference ever since Reagan at least.
>
> Nasty women! One day AOC will be president if she is not shot first.Have I told you about trump comparing AOC to (the theater character of) Evita? Apparently that is his favorite musical. He admires her. And there is much to admire. I wonder if I'll live to see her or another woman become president. He'll never beat her on twitter :D
Posted by beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 18:54:04
In reply to Re: Modern History » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28
Many gems today. This twitter feed highlighted in the guardian. I love comics.
https://twitter.com/PresVillain/status/834470392890785792?s=20
Posted by sigismund on October 23, 2019, at 21:12:18
In reply to Re: Modern History » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 23, 2019, at 16:49:28
I have one of his T shirts: 'I'm not sure they have my dosage right.'
Posted by sigismund on October 24, 2019, at 3:25:35
In reply to First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 23, 2019, at 21:12:18
The opposite of the cultivation of indifference.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mu-K6da4Os
What did Barbara say?
But why should we hear about body bags and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or that or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that, and watch him (her husband, former president George H. W. Bush) suffer?
Posted by alexandra_k on October 26, 2019, at 18:54:18
In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 24, 2019, at 3:25:35
I'm not sure I understand it...
I think it is that there are too many people. We have exceeded carrying capacity on the globe. We just keep making them, keep making them, keep making them, as cheap disposable items. As slaves to do labor.
Then they migrate en masse...
The migration up through America because people want... To live like they see on TV and presented in the media.
The migration across Europe.
And you can't have a nice life in a nice neighbourhood when there are masses and masses and masses and masses flocking into your neighbourhood.
But people keep making people. So... What ya gonna do.
Sigh.
Posted by sigismund on October 27, 2019, at 0:29:01
In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by alexandra_k on October 26, 2019, at 18:54:18
Climate change, drug production, DEA enforcement, CIA, fighting communism, terrorism or whatever, multiple coups throughout the entire continent, economic progress favouring oligarchies, free trade agreements...ever since WW2.
Of course they know what's in store. That's why the borders are being militarised.
Posted by Beckett2 on October 27, 2019, at 11:11:58
In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 27, 2019, at 0:29:01
> Climate change, drug production, DEA enforcement, CIA, fighting communism, terrorism or whatever, multiple coups throughout the entire continent, economic progress favouring oligarchies, free trade agreements...ever since WW2.
>
> Of course they know what's in store. That's why the borders are being militarised.Ex-national security adviser considers climate change to be the primary security risk. Thats the unspoken driver of immigration in the Americas.
Im writing from my phone in a prophylactic blackout. My favorite part of the state is ablaze, calling for 90,000 mandatory evacuations.
Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 1:26:26
In reply to Re: First Dog » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 27, 2019, at 11:11:58
Yes, I heard about this large evacuation or something, and thought of you. That is a lot of evacuations.
That's a good reason to do nothing about climate change....kill them off. Hate dominates politics for sure.
Mate Taibbi has a book out "Hate Inc". I listen to useful Idiots sometimes.
Posted by Beckett2 on October 28, 2019, at 11:51:15
In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 1:26:26
> Yes, I heard about this large evacuation or something, and thought of you. That is a lot of evacuations.
>
> That's a good reason to do nothing about climate change....kill them off. Hate dominates politics for sure.
>
> Mate Taibbi has a book out "Hate Inc". I listen to useful Idiots sometimes.Useful Idiots is a podcast or YouTube?
Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 21:32:47
In reply to Re: First Dog » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 28, 2019, at 11:51:15
I listen to it on youtube but it may be a podcast.
He does it with Katie Halperin or some similar name.
There was a quote I read from "Insane Clown President" which was along the lines of 'Trump understood the fatal weakness of the death star: The cameras would never be switched off'. Which brings to mind 'Aryan Death Cult'. Where did I hear that?
Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:02:32
In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 21:32:47
Tulsi thinks that Hillary is a Russian asset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMesTB_HtYM
I never hear people saying nice things about Putin, but let me repeat what he said to the UN about the US.....'Can't you see what you have done?' and 'Can't you think one step ahead'. He'd be thinking of chess, not the 8 dimensional variety.
Do you think this is becoming Shakespearian?
Posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:07:04
In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:02:32
who I don't know at all but whose name I love
Looks like she has had quite enough, maybe of Hillary, maybe of a good deal more.
Posted by beckett2 on October 29, 2019, at 14:54:49
In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 28, 2019, at 22:02:32
> Tulsi thinks that Hillary is a Russian asset.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMesTB_HtYM
>
> I never hear people saying nice things about Putin, but let me repeat what he said to the UN about the US.....'Can't you see what you have done?' and 'Can't you think one step ahead'. He'd be thinking of chess, not the 8 dimensional variety.
>
> Do you think this is becoming Shakespearian?
I think of Macbeth most certainly. What do you think?Thanks for the clip. Hillary really should put a lid on it about *'this russur thing'.
So Gabbard has lost her progressive shine. What are the problems with Warren? I suppose she isn't progressive enough.... Your country is in a relatively peaceful state. Not brexiting or trumping or experiencing a far right insurgence. An AOC candidacy can't come fast enough.
My kid was arguing that the US should never had entered WWI. Woodrow Wilson started us on this interventionist path. It's a shame.
While writing this, I received a text that we'll be likely plunged into another blackout. The fires are terrifying.
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haH987kwtt8
Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 1:00:46
In reply to Re: First Dog » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on October 29, 2019, at 14:54:49
Warren's alright, she and Bernie. I haven't followed Tulsi much at all. She surprises by saying truthful things sometimes, just like the current occupant (as they say). Did HRC ever say anything like that? I suppose so, she must have.
My father came back from the US once and we had Goldwater in the drinks fridge for a long time, before I was old enough to take a more serious interest. It did not come in a tin! It was in a glass bottle. So I cannot show you an image.
Maybe reading Shakespeare is not such a bad idea? I used to read King Lear out loud when no one was around. It felt good for my mental health. I even read The Tempest once and I remember nothing, though there is....full fathom five thy father lies under the flatfish and the squids....or is that Eliot copying him?
Posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2019, at 15:25:57
In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 1:00:46
> Warren's alright, she and Bernie. I haven't followed Tulsi much at all. She surprises by saying truthful things sometimes, just like the current occupant (as they say). Did HRC ever say anything like that? I suppose so, she must have.
>
> My father came back from the US once and we had Goldwater in the drinks fridge for a long time, before I was old enough to take a more serious interest. It did not come in a tin! It was in a glass bottle. So I cannot show you an image.
>
> Maybe reading Shakespeare is not such a bad idea? I used to read King Lear out loud when no one was around. It felt good for my mental health. I even read The Tempest once and I remember nothing, though there is....full fathom five thy father lies under the flatfish and the squids....or is that Eliot copying him?Oh my god. I meant King Lear, not Macbeth. King Lear is what's happening here.
Posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2019, at 16:05:05
In reply to Re: First Dog, posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 1:00:46
> Warren's alright, she and Bernie. I haven't followed Tulsi much at all. She surprises by saying truthful things sometimes, just like the current occupant (as they say). Did HRC ever say anything like that? I suppose so, she must have.
>
> My father came back from the US once and we had Goldwater in the drinks fridge for a long time, before I was old enough to take a more serious interest. It did not come in a tin! It was in a glass bottle. So I cannot show you an image.
>
> Maybe reading Shakespeare is not such a bad idea? I used to read King Lear out loud when no one was around. It felt good for my mental health. I even read The Tempest once and I remember nothing, though there is....full fathom five thy father lies under the flatfish and the squids....or is that Eliot copying him?
'Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell
Hark! Now I hear them Ding-dong, bell.'
Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 23:08:41
In reply to Re: First Dog » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2019, at 15:25:57
Ooooh, King Lear! Yes yes.
If that the heavens do not their visible spirits
Send quickly down to tame these vile offenses,
It will come:
Humanity must perforce prey on itself
Like monsters of the deep.The great thing about Lear is that it is every second speech. Shakespeare's treatment of Albany's innocence is funny and cruel.
As in
'But oh poor Gloucester, lost he his other eye?' '
'Both, my Lord, both'.There is no good news in Lear. And some of the most moving poetry I have read.
Poor naked wretches, whereso'er you are,
That bide the pelting of this pitiless storm,
How shall your houseless heads and unfed sides,
Your looped and windowed raggedness, defend you
From seasons such as these? Oh, I have ta'en
Too little care of this! Take physic, pomp.
Expose thyself to feel what wretches feel,
That thou mayst shake the superflux to them
And show the heavens more just.I was 14 when I started on it. The world feels like it has moved on as it does at the end of the day, but there is nowhere left.
An interesting conversation on social media which took place in an opshop. The indue card is to supervise the spending of welfare recipients (Coles, Woolworths) One woman is looking through the 50c bin for something...
'Why are you doing that?'
I'm on the indue card'
'It's a good idea.'
'They'll be gassing us next.'
'It was good enough for the jews'The charitable way of seeing this is as an example of the dry Australian sense of humour.
Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 23:21:15
In reply to Re: First Dog » sigismund, posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2019, at 16:05:05
it wasn't.....It was from a redacted (by Pound) section of the Wasteland
Full fathom five your Bleistein lies
Under the flatfish and the squids.Graves' disease in a dead Jew's eyes!
Where the crabs have eat the lids
Posted by Beckett2 on October 31, 2019, at 1:50:26
In reply to A dog's obeyed in office » beckett2, posted by sigismund on October 30, 2019, at 23:08:41
> Ooooh, King Lear! Yes yes.
>
> If that the heavens do not their visible spirits
> Send quickly down to tame these vile offenses,
> It will come:
> Humanity must perforce prey on itself
> Like monsters of the deep.
>
> The great thing about Lear is that it is every second speech. Shakespeare's treatment of Albany's innocence is funny and cruel.
> As in
> 'But oh poor Gloucester, lost he his other eye?' '
> 'Both, my Lord, both'.
>
> There is no good news in Lear. And some of the most moving poetry I have read.
>
> Poor naked wretches, whereso'er you are,
> That bide the pelting of this pitiless storm,
> How shall your houseless heads and unfed sides,
> Your looped and windowed raggedness, defend you
> From seasons such as these? Oh, I have ta'en
> Too little care of this! Take physic, pomp.
> Expose thyself to feel what wretches feel,
> That thou mayst shake the superflux to them
> And show the heavens more just.
>
> I was 14 when I started on it. The world feels like it has moved on as it does at the end of the day, but there is nowhere left.
>
> An interesting conversation on social media which took place in an opshop. The indue card is to supervise the spending of welfare recipients (Coles, Woolworths) One woman is looking through the 50c bin for something...
>
> 'Why are you doing that?'
> I'm on the indue card'
> 'It's a good idea.'
> 'They'll be gassing us next.'
> 'It was good enough for the jews'
>
> The charitable way of seeing this is as an example of the dry Australian sense of humour.
>There are refugees centers in Ireland run by a US conglomerate, Aramark, which contracts private prison management. I was listening to a podcast discussing, for instance, how the more people that fit into a center, the lower the cost per head and the greater the profit, etc. You know these places are travesties. Just the thought that Ireland had them, too. I believe California has agreed to stop private contracts. Anyways, what a dismal place the world has become. I wanted to hide my head.
What's an 'opshop'? I take it to be a thrift store (second hand store).
I've wanted to ask you. The polar vortex we experience in our midwest, is that something like the cold from melting ice being expelled from the north?
Posted by sigismund on October 31, 2019, at 2:50:42
In reply to Re: A dog's obeyed in office » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 31, 2019, at 1:50:26
An opshop is a thrift store, yes.
From what I have heard and imperfectly remembered, something goes wavy in the upper atmosphere causing weather patterns to persist longer (California drought, rain in the midwest, freezing cold in the centre and east). Apparently it is starting to happen in the southern hemisphere with the melting, but it is not nearly as severe.
All the privatisations have changed governments from being service providers to money streams. Room there for family members to cash in on contracts for service provision. And then there is our pathetic dependence on carrots and sticks, as if we can't bear to touch those on the receiving end of the policies.
So what about PG&E (or whatever it is). Was it once government owned? All that money paid to shareholders could have been put to use burying the power lines. Those sunny Reagan years seem long ago, the Clinton promises of economic growth too. Everybody knows the plague is coming.
Posted by sigismund on October 31, 2019, at 2:57:30
In reply to Re: A dog's obeyed in office » sigismund, posted by Beckett2 on October 31, 2019, at 1:50:26
Privatisation makes sense where there can be competition. All of this institutional knowledge has been lost, wantonly destroyed.
If you want to privatise the ABC you starve it if funds, relentlessly attack it and destroy its confidence, then say it is useless and only for the elites and might as well be privatised. That looked like what Trump was doing with his cabinet appointments. Pure Murdoch.
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