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Posted by Beckett on May 30, 2012, at 18:13:56
These seems difficult to believe is going to happen. This then leaves him vulnerable to spurious U.S. charges.
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/5/30/divided_british_court_upholds_extradition_of
Posted by sigismund on May 31, 2012, at 0:44:42
In reply to Extradition of Assange to Sweden, posted by Beckett on May 30, 2012, at 18:13:56
On an airline flight here a man wanted to use the toilet. He asked the man next to him if he could hold a parcel while he got out of his seat. This man said (joking!) 'I hope it's not a bomb'. He was arrested and charged when the plane landed.
It's just like that. It's because they never fought in anything real (like WWII) that they are so extreme. It's how the hologram works. Even the supposedly left wing Gillard is the same.
It does not matter that many of the documents released show US diplomats in a favourable light. That is not the point.
You must not raise your hand against them and you must never not take them seriously.
Posted by Beckett on June 3, 2012, at 7:58:56
In reply to Re: Extradition of Assange to Sweden » Beckett, posted by sigismund on May 31, 2012, at 0:44:42
>You must not raise your hand against them and you must never not take them seriously.
This hologram referred to I don't understand. Where can I read about it? I understand enough to be frightened. I understand something like an absolute power if that is a a term to use here. I feel that most people I know don't grasp the enormity of the importance. It's merely a fringe dweller, an activist, a whistler blower (a whistler blower for crying out!) therefore isolated cases and people they cannot or refuse to identify with. I see it as a movement to erode civil liberties.
Posted by Beckett on June 3, 2012, at 8:06:18
In reply to Re: Extradition of Assange to Sweden, posted by Beckett on June 3, 2012, at 7:58:56
Why does Gillard do nothing for Assange? There is a picture of her on Wikipedia literally playing ball with Obama. One would think regardless of opinion, one goes to bat for one's citizen. Maybe that is outmoded thought. I am a dinosaur.
Posted by sigismund on June 3, 2012, at 14:33:38
In reply to Re: Extradition of Assange to Sweden, posted by Beckett on June 3, 2012, at 8:06:18
Yes; it would have cost her nothing (you might have thought) for her to at least say 'We can see now law that he has broken. He is entitled to the rights and responsibilities of any Australian citizen and we shall do our best to see that he gets them.'
Why did she not say this?
Because it counts for nothing.
You can be picked up off the streets and taken to Egypt and tortured and no one will say very much.
Australia has been in all of America's wars, giving them (I think the word is) fulsome support. The Americans might respect us more if we gave more real advice. For us it is just the payment of an insurance policy. When Gillard and Abbott say 'We will stay the course in Afghanistan so that the deaths of our brave soldiers have not been in vain' everyone knows that we will declare victory and leave 5 minutes after you do.
Posted by sigismund on June 3, 2012, at 14:36:43
In reply to Re: Extradition of Assange to Sweden, posted by Beckett on June 3, 2012, at 8:06:18
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2007/08/the-great-ameri.html
There's one to read. A feast of B*llsh*t and Spectacle! You've got to love him.
Posted by sigismund on June 3, 2012, at 14:45:16
In reply to Re: Extradition of Assange to Sweden, posted by sigismund on June 3, 2012, at 14:36:43
This may be why the opinion of the average person in the third world is so much more sophisticated than the opinion of the average Australian. I will leave Americans alone....they have had more than enough to put up with. But they are gentle, more gentle than us by far. In Kathmandu it most often went like this.....
'Where are you from?'
'Australia.'
'Kangaroo! How many people in Australia?'
'20 million.'
'Same as Nepal!'
Far fewer illusions to defend.
Posted by sigismund on June 3, 2012, at 14:56:09
In reply to Re: Extradition of Assange to Sweden, posted by sigismund on June 3, 2012, at 14:36:43
I was impressed to read in Murdoch press in Brisbane that we had come to the dog days of winter when temperatures would not climb up much above 21C and we were warned about the stress and depression resulting from such low temperatures, alleviated only slightly by gentle sunlight.
I was also most impressed to see the old reptile himself cross examined at the Leveson Inuiry. It was psychologically very interesting. Maybe those people who say there is a race of them in the centre of the earth who are interbreeding with us and creating a race of psycopaths are onto something?
Posted by Beckett on June 16, 2012, at 9:32:43
In reply to Re: Extradition of Assange to Sweden, posted by sigismund on June 3, 2012, at 14:36:43
> http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2007/08/the-great-ameri.html
>
> There's one to read. A feast of B*llsh*t and Spectacle! You've got to love him.That was good sigi, thanks.
Posted by zazenducke on June 29, 2012, at 15:28:30
In reply to Extradition of Assange to Sweden, posted by Beckett on May 30, 2012, at 18:13:56
The accused rapist showing his character again?
Know anything about freedom of the press and human rights in Ecuador?
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