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Posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 21:20:54
http://www.gallup.com/poll/146348/Mississippi-Rates-Conservative-Rates-States.aspx
Posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 21:26:20
In reply to Red and blue states, posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 21:20:54
http://www.gallup.com/poll/145271/Conservatives-Continue-Outnumber-Moderates-2010.aspx
Oh my. My feelings of dis-ease seem based in fact. Moderates just do not fare well.
Posted by sigismund on January 30, 2012, at 16:16:26
In reply to Re: Red and blue states, posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 21:26:20
>Moderates just do not fare well.
Shades of grey are harder to defend than black and white?
Right now we have 'Turn back the boats. No new taxes.' and we had 'We shall decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come', and thinking back to Stalin (always useful when you are thinking of what triumphs when) 'We are not a coterie of personal friends. We are the executive committee of the working class'.
Joe Bageant has all this stuff about the Scots Irish, meaning those border Scots who were sent to (I think Northern?) Ireland by James I and who subsequently moved to the US, quite early on.
Posted by Beckett on February 9, 2012, at 7:54:56
In reply to Re: Red and blue states, posted by Dinah on January 29, 2012, at 21:26:20
I have been thinking liberal and conservative mindsets, my own knee-jerk liberalism in particular and how that limits my ability to take in information. I came across this interview between Bill Moyers and Jonathan Haidt, a social psychologist (moral philosophist?) on the differences between the liberal and conservative minds. You might know the majority of this, but I found it enlightening. It is near an hour long. I listened to it as a podcast while I worked. I did not sit down and watch it.
As I listened, I considered your sense of loss over the moderate's presently diminished position in this country....
Posted by sigismund on February 12, 2012, at 19:17:56
In reply to Re: Red and blue states » Dinah, posted by Beckett on February 9, 2012, at 7:54:56
Posted by Beckett on February 14, 2012, at 8:47:57
In reply to Re: Red and blue states, posted by sigismund on February 12, 2012, at 19:17:56
> http://www.truth-out.org/print/12448
That was interesting. I could quote all sorts of bits that go back to the interview between Moyers and the moral psychologist, Haidt. Like this one: BRUCE BARTLETT: I think so. I mean, certainly the Occupy Wall Street group has some similarities with the Tea Party group in that regard. And I've always thought that a lot of these Tea Party people could easily switch sides, like, overnight depending on the circumstances. For example it's obvious that a lot of Tea Party members tend to be elderly. You've seen that famous sign, "Tell the government to keep its hands off my Medicare." And I think as long as the government does keep its hands off their Medicare, they're fine with talking about low taxes. But once they start to realize that the Republicans really do want to not just cut Medicare, but essentially abolish it, you know, I just think those people are not going to be part of the Tea Party. They're going to be over with the Occupy Wall Street.
Bartlett's insider view's on are enlightening. And his breakdown of the .1% of the contested 1% reconfirm this poorly constructed slogan of the one percent. It helps, I think, to dismantle the urge towards class warfare and division.Moyers is attempting vital conversations.
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