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Posted by floatingbridge on August 8, 2011, at 19:43:58
Well, sigi, I now have a copy of "Black Mass" in my hands.
*this is an abyss into which it is better not to look*
*my friend, we are not free not to look*
After my book on Jesus and Oscar Wilde....
Posted by sigismund on August 8, 2011, at 20:26:55
In reply to It came in the mail., posted by floatingbridge on August 8, 2011, at 19:43:58
I did enjoy it.
It is a different take on things, certainly.
I liked what one reviewer said............a load of bollocks, couldn't be more something if it was crawling with lizards.
Posted by sigismund on August 8, 2011, at 20:47:22
In reply to Re: It came in the mail. » floatingbridge, posted by sigismund on August 8, 2011, at 20:26:55
I saw him at the Sydney Writers Festival a couple of years ago. In one session he was on with Andrew Bacevich. I was very interesting to feel the sadness and anger of these old fashioned conservatives.
Posted by floatingbridge on August 8, 2011, at 22:17:29
In reply to Re: It came in the mail., posted by sigismund on August 8, 2011, at 20:47:22
> I saw him at the Sydney Writers Festival a couple of years ago. In one session he was on with Andrew Bacevich. I was very interesting to feel the sadness and anger of these old fashioned conservatives.
I still don't know what an old fashioned conservative is, but I felt saddness and anger just reading a chapter bit on the death of utopia.But then, I was thinking of the London riots which saddness
me too.
Posted by sigismund on August 8, 2011, at 23:15:23
In reply to Re: It came in the mail. » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on August 8, 2011, at 22:17:29
Let me find my old post on Andrew Bacevich. He was going to speak in Sydney but could not because his son was killed in Iraq. Bacevich himself was an army man, before teaching at a Boston university.
Posted by sigismund on August 8, 2011, at 23:17:48
In reply to Re: It came in the mail. » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on August 8, 2011, at 22:17:29
http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl?post=/babble/poli/20070312/msgs/761201.html
Posted by floatingbridge on August 9, 2011, at 6:14:40
In reply to Re: It came in the mail., posted by sigismund on August 8, 2011, at 23:17:48
> http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl?post=/babble/poli/20070312/msgs/761201.html
Sigi, I must know this gentleman. I actually have no comment other than to say he has touched the core of my experience as an American citizen. It is maddening, outrageous, and ultimately tragically sad. September 11th awoke me to the deep dysfunction of my country, something I grieve. For myself, growing up as a US citizen was believing in such goodness, like being part of a fairy tale which pits good against evil. As a young adult I adopted a default pessimistic cynicism like a shell as only a true believer can. The aftermath of Sept 11th smashed that shell, and I was radically disenchanted.
When I see the soldiers going to war and giving their all as he puts it, I feel that there is no one behind them except their families.
Posted by sigismund on August 9, 2011, at 13:59:04
In reply to Re: It came in the mail. » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on August 9, 2011, at 6:14:40
I never read that without tears in my eyes.
The year after he was there for a couple of sessions, and one of those was with John Gray.
I read a couple of Bacevich's books. One of them was somewhat arcane (for me), about internal policy in the military, about how they resolved never to let Vietnam happen again and how, by increments, something similar did.
My idea of conservative is from Edmund Burke.
Posted by floatingbridge on August 12, 2011, at 18:59:07
In reply to Re: It came in the mail. » floatingbridge, posted by sigismund on August 8, 2011, at 20:26:55
> I did enjoy it.
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> It is a different take on things, certainly.
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> I liked what one reviewer said............a load of bollocks, couldn't be more something if it was crawling with lizards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EZTzRdU8po&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Posted by sigismund on August 12, 2011, at 19:29:35
In reply to Utopia » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on August 12, 2011, at 18:59:07
David Walsh was an aspergers type kid who made a heap of money gambling and sunk the best part of $200 million into this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MONA
It is very interesting. So many things are not. We went when we were in Tasmania
Posted by sigismund on August 12, 2011, at 19:31:52
In reply to Re: Utopia » floatingbridge, posted by sigismund on August 12, 2011, at 19:29:35
Is this right?
Posted by floatingbridge on August 14, 2011, at 14:43:17
In reply to Re: Utopia » floatingbridge, posted by sigismund on August 12, 2011, at 19:29:35
> David Walsh was an aspergers type kid who made a heap of money gambling and sunk the best part of $200 million into this
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MONA
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> It is very interesting. So many things are not. We went when we were in Tasmania
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Walsh_(art_collector)I hadn't. Did see a video of a robotic business man crawling down a crowded sidewalk. Part of the Utopia exhibit.
Some of all of it, modern art, is not all that interesting. It seems like listening in on private conversations w/o context. Then again, some is very wow to me.....
Was it very odd feeling inside? Someone described the building as 'macabre'?
I was prompted by the chapter, The Death of Utopia.
Posted by sigismund on August 14, 2011, at 21:22:06
In reply to Re: Utopia » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on August 14, 2011, at 14:43:17
> Someone described the building as 'macabre'
I didn't feel it as that. It felt like something industrial, maybe a mine, maybe some kind of underground factory? But it isn't. It was built for MONA.
Posted by floatingbridge on August 18, 2011, at 17:54:16
In reply to Re: Utopia » floatingbridge, posted by sigismund on August 14, 2011, at 21:22:06
Because you wrote something elsewhere that brought this poem to mind, about boys and horses.
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