Psycho-Babble Politics Thread 946055

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Reading, Learning

Posted by Katzenjam52 on May 2, 2010, at 21:34:51

Do you know how and why the CIA in the United States was created?
Do you know how much power that one organization actually gave itself, within the United States?
Do you know what they do today?
Do you know what George W. Bush did, and why I believe he is one of many psychopaths in power today (and in history as well) ... and the American People, like the Canadian People and many, many others all over this planet, really are blind to themselves and their "leaders". Leaders yes, but not in a helpful or good way.
It's time for people to unbecome their sheeple-ness, for the living dead to become the Living. Period.
End of sentence.
Who knows what else our blindness is the end of.

 

Re: Reading, Learning » Katzenjam52

Posted by sigismund on May 3, 2010, at 1:22:27

In reply to Reading, Learning, posted by Katzenjam52 on May 2, 2010, at 21:34:51

>Do you know how and why the CIA in the United States was created?

During WWII the Japanese were unable to ship all the loot back to Japan, and much of it was stored on some island in the Philippines. Advance US troops secured the site, and that became the seed money for the CIA. Then the odd bit of Air America (was it?) in Vietnam, I don't know, narcotics here and there, probably plenty of action in South America. No war on drugs with the CIA. I think I prefer them to your politicians.

 

Re: being blocked again

Posted by Dr. Bob on May 4, 2010, at 10:15:27

In reply to Reading, Learning, posted by Katzenjam52 on May 2, 2010, at 21:34:51

> the American People, like the Canadian People and many, many others all over this planet, really are blind to themselves and their "leaders".

Would anyone be willing to try to show Katzenjam how she might rephrase that or to encourage her to apologize? You may have the power to help her avoid being blocked again.

Bob

 

Everything I've Read

Posted by Katzenjam52 on May 4, 2010, at 11:07:42

non-governmental reading that is, not the official voice but voices raised in Thought ...
points to G.W. Bush being a psychopath who took advantage of "his" country, and "his" people, took them to war, grossly brought thousands of men, women and innocent children to grisly, untimely deaths ... and millions took the word of a liar doing what he did best, lying ... and now there is another there, bought by corporations, showing true colours ... books and speeches, and sins committed in the name of, and with the face of, decency.
So interesting, the blindness that's befallen our crestfallen world ...
did you know, that if another volcano or two begins now, it could also be the end of life on this planet at this time, as we know it?
Did you know that we might have changed everything, if only we hadn't been sleepwalking through it all, focussed on our little lives, little, little life.
So much ruined, so much destroyed, so much cruelty, unkindness, foolishness ... corruption, evil displayed as competence, even when incompetence and evil became clear, no one was made to be brought to justice, because we were all too involved with our little, little lives. And so very many chose to believe the face of a liar.

 

Re: Everything I've Read » Katzenjam52

Posted by sigismund on May 4, 2010, at 11:07:42

In reply to Everything I've Read, posted by Katzenjam52 on May 2, 2010, at 21:52:40

Goodness.

Let me shake your hand while you are still around.

 

Re: Everything I've Read » Katzenjam52

Posted by sigismund on May 4, 2010, at 11:07:42

In reply to Everything I've Read, posted by Katzenjam52 on May 2, 2010, at 21:52:40

You know what Andrew Bacevich said at the Sydney Writers festival?

Firstly he mentioned Wolfowitz(??) saying that 'weapons of mass destruction was the point on which we could all agree', meaning that there was a range of viewpoints and WMD was some kind of highest common factor thing.

Secondly, that after the attacks, the (subjectively speaking) scales fell from his eyes and he embraced the Wilsonian foreign policy which he married to neo-liberalism. Because he had to speak to the American people about what had happened. He couldn't just stay in Nebraska.

Then there's the sense of entitlement. Its odd, from this distance, not understanding all the subtexts. I was brought up believing in kings, queens and archbishops. 'Yo Blair'?

Just very shortsighted, always people are. Humanity.

 

Re: Everything I've Read

Posted by sigismund on May 4, 2010, at 11:07:43

In reply to Everything I've Read, posted by Katzenjam52 on May 2, 2010, at 21:52:40

That's right....he was going to rid the world, or at least declare war on, EVIL.

Not a conservative position. Not remotely.

 

Re: Everything I've Read

Posted by sigismund on May 4, 2010, at 11:07:43

In reply to Re: Everything I've Read, posted by sigismund on May 3, 2010, at 1:07:07

It comes back to that famous (but not famous enough) quote of Karl Rove told to Ron Suskind -

The aide [now known to be Karl Rove] said that guys like me [writer Ron Suskind] were in what we call the reality-based community, which he defined as people who believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality. I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. Thats not the way the world really works anymore, he continued. Were an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while youre studying that reality judiciously, as you will well act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and thats how things will sort out. Were historys actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.


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