Psycho-Babble Politics Thread 902957

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A nice little letter

Posted by Sigismund on June 24, 2009, at 14:35:22

to our local free paper.
I especially liked the first paragraph.

CO2 accumulates
Carbon dioxide is accumulating, but because the beautiful Earth is our mother and Jesus loves us and we know that Obama is Bushs 8th cousin and the pyramids golden capstone wants to make money from windmills and the council of foreign relations trained Obama and Al Gore to spread lies and the media is orchestrated by the Club of Rome and CO2 is natural to life and harmlessly present in homeopathic quantities and the IPCC is a marketing propaganda machine and military jets need fuel and men need beef and the universe is abundant and all shortages are designed to make profits and neutrinos cause climate change and the system has already collapsed and humanity is ascending to a higher vibration and Im saving the blue-*ss fly from extinction and it is meant to be this way and we cant do anything about it and Ive got my veggie patch and Im safe in my SUV and greenpower is a scam and haw haw haw what a load of crap and we are already past the tipping point and it is still not proven anyway and global temperature has not increased since 1998 and we each do the best we can and its all beyond me and l havent got time to think about it and I cant afford it, carbon dioxide is still accumulating.
What is more accurate: belief or observation? What is more real: your paradigm, or our planet? The air, land, and sea need you now. Join the World at 350.org.
A deep understanding of climate change is not trivial. It is scientifically and mathematically sophisticated. At some point we have to accept the analysis and heed the warnings from the hundreds of top scientists from many disciplines involved. They are doing the best they can, with the most advanced experimental equipment and software available, to give us realistic predictions. To learn more about climate change see www.beyond-oil.com/links.htm.

 

Re: A nice little letter » Sigismund

Posted by fayeroe on June 25, 2009, at 18:49:26

In reply to A nice little letter, posted by Sigismund on June 24, 2009, at 14:35:22

This went out to all of my "enlightened" friends. As I told you in the email...my coffee shot out my nose!
The author is very, very witty.........

 

Re: A nice little letter

Posted by alexandra_k on June 30, 2009, at 5:33:35

In reply to Re: A nice little letter » Sigismund, posted by fayeroe on June 25, 2009, at 18:49:26

for all the problems of modern life i'd rather live as we do now than as the caveman.

yes, of course you would. but would the caveman?

W.

 

Re: A nice little letter

Posted by alexandra_k on June 30, 2009, at 5:41:52

In reply to Re: A nice little letter, posted by alexandra_k on June 30, 2009, at 5:33:35

'progress'
pppft.

record breaking numbers of flavors of spaghetti sauce
happiness at an all time low
midst of an epidemic

'progress' they say
pppft.

people like to consider the history of medicine as a story of the triumph of western medicine colonising the world.

an alternative take is the description of the co-evolution of western medicine and disease. the epidemics of the 1900's fairly much eradicated by modern medicine. the current epidemics fairly much unheard of in the 1900's.

'progress' they say
pppft.

and round and round we go

i feel sick i wanna get off

people are too busy aspiring to what is 'their right'
(rights don't seem to entail duties for some)
people have rights to x and rights to y
(don't seem to think of how their having x and y entails others won't have z)
we have the right to buy heaps of crap that we throw in the trash
to drive our suv by ourself through the drive through
never mind island communities becoming submerged
half a planet away
its got nothing to do with me
its my right
(we have no obligation to citizens of other nations according to some)
(unless of course we decide to 'lend them a hand' out of charity)

i dunno

i feel sick

sometimes i feel sick to be a human being.

dennet helps me. his stuff on how we are the evolved nervous system of the planet. we have developed the capacity to be sentinals for the earth to sense danger from afar and do something about it. or perhaps some have evolved the capacity... sigh.

its ok. jesus will make it all okay.
whatever happens was meant to be.


 

Re: A nice little letter » alexandra_k

Posted by fayeroe on June 30, 2009, at 10:43:43

In reply to Re: A nice little letter, posted by alexandra_k on June 30, 2009, at 5:41:52

WWJD?

In my case I use WWTP? My dear departed dog had more sense than the Pope.

So, what would tippy do? He would shake his head and "load" into the truck and ask me if we could get as far away as possible.....like a wilderness that Bush didn't give away to someone he went to Yale with.....(back in his cheerleading days.....bush, not tippy)

talking about everyone doing stuff because they have a right to........working in a library has smacked my head up against a hard wall! i knew that people were crazy but not the way i'm seeing every day.
a library is a privilege....you would never know it from the adults on down.

doing something just because you have a right to do it will sometimes (hopefully) cause the "doer" some serious consequences. hopefully the rest of us won't be impacted.

yeah, i can see huge changes within the past 10 years. horrid changes. makes me want to pack up and once again live on the ranch in Oklahoma. away from the frenzied masses.......

 

Re: A nice little letter

Posted by Sigismund on June 30, 2009, at 15:30:48

In reply to Re: A nice little letter, posted by alexandra_k on June 30, 2009, at 5:41:52

>sometimes i feel sick to be a human being.

Quite right too.

I think it is a question of what the democratic system can achieve in this society. With the Emissions Trading Scheme here I think this is what happened: The coal industry went to Rudd in a friendly way and said more or less...'These are your margins in the coal producing electorates. Obviously you cannot expect either us or the unionists to take the destruction of the coal industry lying down. The Liberals will do even less.'

The really dumb thing is that Australia could have been a leader in the development of solar power which could have been developed as an insurance in parallel with the coal industry.

 

Re: A nice little letter

Posted by Sigismund on June 30, 2009, at 15:46:57

In reply to Re: A nice little letter, posted by Sigismund on June 30, 2009, at 15:30:48

I see a shrink to get a Valium script. He gives me long stories *especially* about how the profession (and of course the world) is full of psycopaths (his choice of word). When I ask him what he means he says 'Well, sociopaths', and when I ask again he says something along the lines of ethics, honesty and stuff like that. Anyway, I was saying to him after a mutual chat about how f*ck*d everything was 'I feel so embarrassed to belong to this species that I want to knock myself off' and he said 'Oh no, I think it's fascinating.' So maybe we can turn horror into fascination together.

 

Re: A nice little letter

Posted by Sigismund on June 30, 2009, at 18:21:53

In reply to Re: A nice little letter, posted by alexandra_k on June 30, 2009, at 5:41:52

people are too busy aspiring to what is 'their right'
(rights don't seem to entail duties for some)
people have rights to x and rights to y
(don't seem to think of how their having x and y entails others won't have z)
we have the right to buy heaps of crap that we throw in the trash
to drive our suv by ourself through the drive through
never mind island communities becoming submerged
>half a planet away
its got nothing to do with me
its my right
(we have no obligation to citizens of other nations according to some)
(unless of course we decide to 'lend them a hand' out of charity)

i dunno

i feel sick

After the fall of communism and the embrace of the golden calf of market fundamentalism, the Western world seems to have had a rush of blood to the head and felt that anything we did was blessed by God, and we dehumanised the people we invaded, to the point that we chose not to count the dead. Here is a truly remarkable young woman from one of those countries. I was transfixed. Here is a lesson in courage and something I can't find words for but which I see in her face.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/

"Raising My Voice" by Malalai Joya

 

Re: A nice little letter

Posted by Sigismund on June 30, 2009, at 18:37:37

In reply to Re: A nice little letter, posted by Sigismund on June 30, 2009, at 18:21:53

So now I see Kabul has an Eiffel Tower.

Vientianne has an Arc de Triomphe, built at the time of the Lon Nol government with money diverted from the airport the Americans gave it for.

 

Re: A nice little letter » Sigismund

Posted by fayeroe on June 30, 2009, at 18:53:18

In reply to Re: A nice little letter, posted by Sigismund on June 30, 2009, at 18:21:53

"MALALAI JOYA: Only one puppet can't be replaced with another puppet."

 

Re: A nice little letter » Sigismund

Posted by fayeroe on June 30, 2009, at 18:54:26

In reply to Re: A nice little letter, posted by Sigismund on June 30, 2009, at 18:37:37

> So now I see Kabul has an Eiffel Tower.
>
> Vientianne has an Arc de Triomphe, built at the time of the Lon Nol government with money diverted from the airport the Americans gave it for.


shaking head!

 

Re: A nice little letter » fayeroe

Posted by Sigismund on June 30, 2009, at 20:49:01

In reply to Re: A nice little letter » Sigismund, posted by fayeroe on June 30, 2009, at 18:54:26

In this picture at any rate it looks better than the Parisian one, and no doubt better than the airport would have.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3212/3129133196_080675a734.jpg

When I saw it it was surrounded by roads leading in and out, or so I thought. It was quite a surprise to see, coming around the corner.

 

Re: A nice little letter » Sigismund

Posted by fayeroe on June 30, 2009, at 22:40:37

In reply to Re: A nice little letter » fayeroe, posted by Sigismund on June 30, 2009, at 20:49:01

Thank you! It is gorgeous~~~

 

Re: A nice little letter

Posted by Katzenjam52 on May 2, 2010, at 21:15:11

In reply to A nice little letter, posted by Sigismund on June 24, 2009, at 14:35:22

A book that is clear and concise on the topic of CO2 and what it's doing to our oceans (and will destroy all life on earth as we know it, and Soon Enough) ... "Seasick" ...
and the governments of many of the countries with the most power to stop this insanity of mankind will Do Too Little, because the leaders of these countries have been bought by Corporations. And the sheeple, and the Walking Dead, accept all, because (1) religion satiates the masses, (2) religion fires people up to fight each other, and therefore is a useful tool to market war, (3) because many, many people of religion accept their fate with too few questions asked, inadequate answers given, (4) people no longer believe in themselves as having the power to change things (5) many, many people sit on their bums and wait for someone else to do it.
What is "it"?
Saving what's left of this particular life cycle on this particular planet.
Period.


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