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Posted by Sigismund on December 19, 2008, at 15:29:31
said GWB.
One is tempted to ask 'Why not?'
I wonder what is happening to al-Zaidi at this very moment
The shoe thrower's family is protesting his incarceration and probable treatment.
President Bush's physical exercise regime and care for his own person has served him well.
Posted by Sigismund on December 19, 2008, at 15:42:09
In reply to 'I don't know what the guy's cause was',, posted by Sigismund on December 19, 2008, at 15:29:31
The shoes were thrown after Bush said
>"The American people have sacrificed a great deal to reach this moment. The battle in Iraq has required a great amount of time and resources" to a crowd of Arab journalists - is it any wonder that shoes were thrown? There is only so much unreality people will put up with before frustration bubbles to the surface, breaking through the veneer of civility.
Posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on December 20, 2008, at 12:28:47
In reply to Re: 'I don't know what the guy's cause was',, posted by Sigismund on December 19, 2008, at 15:42:09
Ya, close to pushing 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths as we end the year. (from iraqbodycount.org ) I certainly don't blame all of this on Mr. Bush. But, then again I believe there are some "puppet masters" behind the scenes who will always be there.
For example...I don't wish to be critical of Bill Clinton, because, well..I just have always tried to like him. He seems like a very nice, smart man who really brought himself up from poverty to the highest office in America. He seems like the kind of guy you could sit down and have a drink with.
But one little thing bugs me. Bill just released his list of "donors" to his "William J. Clinton Fund" that he does much of his, (I will admit often philanthropic) , work through. Some of the top names..the same people that Bush is friends with: top Saudi Oil men, Republican lawyers, richest of-the-rich, Bill Gates, etc.
Sorry if I hijacked your thread...better call Homeland Security..lol. I've said enough...
Jay
Posted by fayeroe on December 20, 2008, at 20:30:30
In reply to 'I don't know what the guy's cause was',, posted by Sigismund on December 19, 2008, at 15:29:31
> said GWB.
>
> One is tempted to ask 'Why not?'
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> I wonder what is happening to al-Zaidi at this very moment
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> The shoe thrower's family is protesting his incarceration and probable treatment.
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> President Bush's physical exercise regime and care for his own person has served him well.Insert your choice of words
terminally_____________.
Posted by Sigismund on December 20, 2008, at 22:40:22
In reply to Re: 'I don't know what the guy's cause was', » Sigismund, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on December 20, 2008, at 12:28:47
This came mind, from Andrew Bacevich, about our world generally and the death of his son. I like the sad reasonableness of it
>After my son's death, my state's senators, Edward M. Kennedy and John F. Kerry, telephoned to express their condolences. Stephen F. Lynch, our congressman, attended my son's wake. Kerry was present for the funeral Mass. My family and I greatly appreciated such gestures. But when I suggested to each of them the necessity of ending the war, I got the brushoff. More accurately, after ever so briefly pretending to listen, each treated me to a convoluted explanation that said in essence: Don't blame me.
>To whom do Kennedy, Kerry and Lynch listen? We know the answer: to the same people who have the ear of George W. Bush and Karl Rove -- namely, wealthy individuals and institutions.
>Money buys access and influence. Money greases the process that will yield us a new president in 2008. When it comes to Iraq, money ensures that the concerns of big business, big oil, bellicose evangelicals and Middle East allies gain a hearing. By comparison, the lives of U.S. soldiers figure as an afterthought.
>Memorial Day orators will say that a G.I.'s life is priceless. Don't believe it. I know what value the U.S. government assigns to a soldier's life: I've been handed the check. It's roughly what the Yankees will pay Roger Clemens per inning once he starts pitching next month.
Posted by fayeroe on December 21, 2008, at 9:02:10
In reply to Re: 'I don't know what the guy's cause was',, posted by Sigismund on December 20, 2008, at 22:40:22
Unfortunately, I've become convinced that "follow the money" works almost every time I feel something/anything is going on..as in untowards...
That is a very sad way to feel about one's life.
Posted by Sigismund on December 25, 2008, at 22:20:40
In reply to Re: 'I don't know what the guy's cause was', » Sigismund, posted by fayeroe on December 21, 2008, at 9:02:10
I had not expected Iraqi (or was it Egyptian?) journalists to have such taste in shoes.
My father wore these...
Posted by fayeroe on December 26, 2008, at 9:46:51
In reply to The Shoes, posted by Sigismund on December 25, 2008, at 22:20:40
""Their deployment as a makeshift missile robbed President George Bush of his dignity and landed their owner in jail. But the world's most notorious pair of shoes have yielded an unexpected bonanza for a Turkish shoemaker.
Ramazan Baydan, owner of the Istanbul-based Baydan Shoe Company, has been swamped with orders from across the world, after insisting that his company produced the black leather shoes which the Iraqi journalist Muntazar al-Zaidi threw at Bush during a press conference in Baghdad last Sunday.
BUY THE BUSH SHOE FROM THIS WEBSITE SOONDUCATI MODEL 271
WE WILL BE ACCEPTING ORDERS VIA OUR STORE AROUND THE NEW YEAR
FOR LARGER PRE-ORDERS PLEASE EMAIL sales@bush-shoe.net
I'm not understanding the part of about the robbing of the dignity. Is that something that he displayed in foreign countries?
Posted by Sigismund on December 26, 2008, at 13:52:15
In reply to Re: The Shoes » Sigismund, posted by fayeroe on December 26, 2008, at 9:46:51
I'd imagined that the shoes which were thrown were like slippers.
This is no doubt a small relic of the unconscious racism we in the west take for granted.
In fact these solid and conservative shoes suggest something about their owner, unless he selected them because they were so heavy.
Posted by fayeroe on December 26, 2008, at 14:33:45
In reply to Re: The Shoes » fayeroe, posted by Sigismund on December 26, 2008, at 13:52:15
> I'd imagined that the shoes which were thrown were like slippers.
> This is no doubt a small relic of the unconscious racism we in the west take for granted.
> In fact these solid and conservative shoes suggest something about their owner, unless he selected them because they were so heavy.I was hoping for combat boots!
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