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Posted by BayLeaf on November 22, 2008, at 18:27:40
Homosexuals, Victims of the Nazi Era, 1933-1945 published by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/PEOPLE/USHMMHOM.HTM
Posted by Sigismund on November 27, 2008, at 4:50:21
In reply to History 101: discrimination against homosexuals, posted by BayLeaf on November 22, 2008, at 18:27:40
This is one aspect of the world that has got better.
And here is an Australian of whom I am proud.
And not at all because he scored the highest ever for diving.
Not so much because he recovered from something like a breakdown.
But because he managed to be himself.
Posted by BayLeaf on November 27, 2008, at 17:09:30
In reply to Re: History 101: discrimination against homosexuals » BayLeaf, posted by Sigismund on November 27, 2008, at 4:50:21
TY so much for posting. It really helped.
I would love to think that this could also happen in the US, but I'm afraid that's not true. Here it's more accurate to say that the LGBT crowd I hang with know not to leave their fav bars alone. We are afraid of being attacked. It's sad and very scary.
Not every town is like Will & Grace. That's just a fantasy in smalltown US.
Bay
Posted by Sigismund on November 27, 2008, at 20:08:57
In reply to Re: History 101: discrimination against homosexuals » Sigismund, posted by BayLeaf on November 27, 2008, at 17:09:30
Roy Harper wrote 'The Game' in the early 70's, a couple of the lines from which are
'The dream is righteous grandeur
Fit to flood the universe
The fact is more than meets the eye
But less than runs the earth'which I include because (apart from affection for it) IMO gay hate crimes are theatre for the amplification of the feeling of righteousness in the offender.
In an analogous way concentration camps dehumanise their inmates to enable the guards to more easily perform their functions with a clear conscience.
As we have seen in recent years in both our countries, the language from the top really matters.
But you would have read Annie Proulx?
She's pretty good on this.
Posted by Sigismund on November 27, 2008, at 20:13:23
In reply to Re: History 101: discrimination against homosexuals » BayLeaf, posted by Sigismund on November 27, 2008, at 20:08:57
>In an analogous way concentration camps dehumanise their inmates to enable the guards to more easily perform their functions with a clear conscience.
At which point it is timely to recall our PM referring to illegal immigrants (often from the countries we helped invade) in endless detention in the desert as 'stock'.
I hadn't expected him to be so transparent.
Posted by Sigismund on November 27, 2008, at 20:22:34
In reply to Re: History 101: discrimination against homosexuals » Sigismund, posted by Sigismund on November 27, 2008, at 20:13:23
>often from the countries we helped invade
Because those counties had regimes which were so unjust.
Those who fled those regimes, trusting in our mercy, we imprisoned indefinitely in the desert.
And then we sent some back because (you guessed it) the countries (Afghanistan, Iraq) were now safe.
Some vanished, but the government never bothered to find out.
It was old ladies in the Church who made the effort.
Good values.
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 3, 2009, at 6:59:05
In reply to History 101: discrimination against homosexuals, posted by BayLeaf on November 22, 2008, at 18:27:40
Friends,
I would like to have dialog with interested members concerning this thread by email if they like.
Lou
lpilder_1188@fuse.net
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