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Posted by Sigismund on November 14, 2008, at 18:33:06
Four backbench Liberals, Petro Georgiou, Judi Moylan, Bruce Baird and Russell Broadbent) went to see John Howard about the policy of mandatory detention of asylum seekers.
Georgiou was preparing to introduce a private members bill to parliament Here is an edited account of the meeting.....>The rebels and Howard gnawed at each others positions with increasing frustration. The underlying intensity occasionally cracked the polite veneer of the meetings they had held with Howard. Moylan had to hold herself in check whenever Howard referred to refugees as 'stock'.
>"How much stock do we have?" he would ask, in what she assumed was an administrative aside.
>On another occasion Moylan slammed down her notes on the table saying she was "sick of being called a political terrorist" because she disagreed with the detention policies.
>Howard replied that he was "sick of being told I have no compassion".
>"Let's be clear about this, Petro. If you do this you will embarrass your Government and you will embarrass your party.
>"I'll tell you what's embarrassing, John," Georgiou said. "Three years ago you agreed to let out a three month old baby who'd been born in detention. She's now three years old and she's smashing her head against a wall in Villawood. That's an embarrassment to the party, John.
>"We've got psychiatric patients I went to you about, who should have been released for treatment, but instead that was blocked by the department and now a court has found the Government has breached its duty of care to these people. That's what I call an embarrassment to the party.
>"And we've got 140 people locked up for three years or more with no convictions and no eveidence they pose a threat to anyone. Let me tell you, John, that's an embarrassment. I'm introducing the bill tomorrow."
Stock?
Beam me up.
Posted by fayeroe on November 14, 2008, at 21:06:28
In reply to Good Values, posted by Sigismund on November 14, 2008, at 18:33:06
Wow! Praise the higher power for that woman!
Posted by Sigismund on November 15, 2008, at 12:42:38
In reply to Re: Good Values, posted by fayeroe on November 14, 2008, at 21:06:28
Since these were all Liberals, their objection was moral at least as much as political.
God bless them.
That same kind of language, only it was 'pieces' and 'cargo', rather than 'stock', was used by guess who?
Posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2008, at 13:34:55
In reply to Good Values, posted by Sigismund on November 14, 2008, at 18:33:06
I didn't realize that Petro was male.
I give up, who said it? Bush? :-)
Posted by Sigismund on November 16, 2008, at 2:31:03
In reply to Re: Good Values..Oops, posted by fayeroe on November 15, 2008, at 13:34:55
Petro was a bloke, but Judi was a sheila.
Who said it?
'Pieces' was the term used by the German bureauocracy for the victims of the Holocaust.
'Cargo' was the word Franz Stangl, Commandant of Treblinka used for the same people.
Fascism-lite, wrapped in good values.
Posted by fayeroe on November 16, 2008, at 7:50:15
In reply to Re: Good Values..Oops, posted by Sigismund on November 16, 2008, at 2:31:03
Wonder what Bush calls the Gitmo and Guantanamo
detainees? Of course their fate isn't the same (in most instances), but stil.What a history some people left behind.
Posted by Sigismund on November 16, 2008, at 12:46:41
In reply to Re: Good Values..Oops » Sigismund, posted by fayeroe on November 16, 2008, at 7:50:15
You know some of the bookies here won't pay out on the Obama win until the inauguration?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081108/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_obama_australia_betting
>God forbid that he has a stroke or gets hit by a bus
That was very tasteful.
Posted by fayeroe on November 16, 2008, at 18:34:40
In reply to Re: Good Values..Oops, posted by Sigismund on November 16, 2008, at 12:46:41
That saddens me very much. We've come so far as a nation and yet we haven't progressed at all.
I am from southeastern Oklahoma and there are two "compounds" of the Aryan Brotherhood within 45 miles from the ranch..now that gives you pause, don't it?
Posted by Sigismund on November 16, 2008, at 18:42:42
In reply to Re: Good Values..Oops » Sigismund, posted by fayeroe on November 16, 2008, at 18:34:40
Talking about the Aryan Brotherhood, a book has come out, not terribly well reviewed, about Hitler's reading.
It's hard to accept that he loved Don Quixote, but only perhaps because I couldn't manage it.
He really liked the Indian stories of Karl May though.
Posted by Sigismund on November 16, 2008, at 18:46:25
In reply to Re: Good Values..Oops, posted by Sigismund on November 16, 2008, at 18:42:42
There's a wonderful quote in Gray uses in "Black Mass", from someone or other, which I can only partly recall, to the effect that while massacres have always occurred, to kill an entire race or class could only be a project that could occur to someone conditioned to western habits of thought.
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