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Posted by Sigismund on September 20, 2008, at 18:32:58
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jM_dFZu6OlJGY-syTjldIu-BXZeAD93AMN280
Looks like we shall get our endless war on terror or whatever it is.
It's like an equation. Allied action in Afghanistan make Pakistan worse. All those countries from Lebanon to Pakistan, well even Indonesia. What did they say? A democratic Iraq would be a beacon (I suppose it was a beacon, that's what you'd expect it to be) to cause a democratic domino effect through Syria, Egypt, Uzbekistan (Have they got a pipeline? they don't have any oil? is there still a US base there? Has anyone been boiled alive there recently?)
Maybe a good time to have shares in the weapons industry (plenty of scope for future earnings)?
Posted by llurpsienoodle on September 20, 2008, at 20:30:16
In reply to Pakistan, posted by Sigismund on September 20, 2008, at 18:32:58
didja know that the US is making more arms sales these days than in recent years?
Bake sales for bombers...
-Ll
Posted by caraher on September 20, 2008, at 22:22:01
In reply to Re: Pakistan » Sigismund, posted by llurpsienoodle on September 20, 2008, at 20:30:16
Read Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine." Disaster is the new growth industry
Posted by Sigismund on September 21, 2008, at 20:01:40
In reply to Re: Pakistan, posted by caraher on September 20, 2008, at 22:22:01
I've been trying to think more positively of her.
When she wrote the book about Harold Bloom putting his hand on her leg when she went to read him her poetry and vomiting as a result, I sympathised with Camilla Paglia who said something to the effect that any student who thinks her prof wants to hear her poetry has rocks in her head.
Posted by Nadezda on September 21, 2008, at 20:52:17
In reply to Naomi Klein » caraher, posted by Sigismund on September 21, 2008, at 20:01:40
Really? Maybe I'm naive, but while, if an English professor says he's interested in hearing you read your poetry, you might think he had another motive-- you might, after all, think he had some inkling that you were a really good poet. Stranger things have happened than a student being a good poet, and a professor becoming interested in helping her develop a career.
Nadezda
Posted by Sigismund on September 21, 2008, at 21:15:05
In reply to Re: Naomi Klein » Sigismund, posted by Nadezda on September 21, 2008, at 20:52:17
Quite right. My cynicism stands corrected.
However I did enjoy Camilla Paglia'a "Sexual Personnae". She had a soft spot for Coleridge, I think. The other problem there is that I had a bit of a soft spot for Harold Bloom. Then we had one of those tedious scandals here, written about well by Helen Garner in "The First Stone", though it may not be so very similar.
I had no idea so many people came to this board.
Posted by llurpsienoodle on September 21, 2008, at 21:31:02
In reply to Re: Naomi Klein » Nadezda, posted by Sigismund on September 21, 2008, at 21:15:05
I have no idea who these personalities cited are.
But I'm reading...
-Ll
Posted by caraher on September 21, 2008, at 22:01:28
In reply to Naomi Klein » caraher, posted by Sigismund on September 21, 2008, at 20:01:40
I think you're confusing her with Naomi Wolf. Naomi Klein is a Canadian-born journalist who regularly contributes to The Nation.
Posted by Nadezda on September 21, 2008, at 22:18:41
In reply to Re: Naomi Klein » Nadezda, posted by Sigismund on September 21, 2008, at 21:15:05
Although actually, it was Naomi Wolf, not Naomi Klein, who accused Harold Bloom of sexual harassment.
Really, these people should have different names-- it's utterly inconvenient of them to be so easily confused.
Naomi Klein is a Canadian journalist of a rather left wing persuasion, I guess, who lately wrote "The Shock Doctrine" which I think diagnoses "disaster capitalism" which is the result of the application of the economic principles of Milton Freedman, et al-- and here I reach the far edge of my knowledge.
Naomi Wolf is the American feminist one of whose claims to fame is having advised Al Gore to wear a certain type of jacket-- or something of that sort-- to give a more manly appearance--also, or something of that sort. She also wrote some other books, of espousing a feminist social theory, the content of which escapes me but one of them might be about sexuality and feminism.
Harold Bloom is a noted English professor at Yale, very eccentric and known mainly for his theory about poetic misreading (or misprision) and given to grand passions (about literature) and minor passions for various female students.
Camille Paglia is another English professor and frequent social commentator of a rather dissenting bent, somewhat right-wing, but mostly liking to point out political correctness and other of what she thinks to be absurdities.
(I apologize if any of this hurts anyone's feelings. I don't mean to. I don't think I've said anything critical, and don't mean anything to be negative, only descriptive. So I hope this is not a problem.)
Nadezda
Posted by Sigismund on September 21, 2008, at 22:41:17
In reply to Re: Naomi Klein, er Wolf, posted by Nadezda on September 21, 2008, at 22:18:41
Good heavens. Naomi Klein is not Naomi Wolf? That explains my slight puzzlement that Naomi Wolf was writing this Disaster Capitalism book.
Must get some smart drugs that work!
Posted by Partlycloudy on September 24, 2008, at 13:45:41
In reply to Re: Naomi Klein, er Wolf, posted by Sigismund on September 21, 2008, at 22:41:17
I listened to an interview with Naomi Klein on the radio today (Democracy Now, not my most favourite of broadcasts, but I try to give it a chance) - I probably wouldn't have bothered to had I not read this thread.
Thanks, regardless of the last name confusion.
Partly
Posted by Sigismund on September 24, 2008, at 20:00:23
In reply to Re: Naomi Klein, er Wolf, posted by Partlycloudy on September 24, 2008, at 13:45:41
So she was good?
I only read a review of Disaster Capitalism.
Posted by Sigismund on September 24, 2008, at 20:02:39
In reply to Pakistan, posted by Sigismund on September 20, 2008, at 18:32:58
The thing about the bomb blast was that the president and PM had been going to be in the Marriot when the blast went off, but for some reason were not.
Posted by Partlycloudy on September 25, 2008, at 8:00:36
In reply to Re: Naomi Klein, er Wolf » Partlycloudy, posted by Sigismund on September 24, 2008, at 20:00:23
> So she was good?
>
> I only read a review of Disaster Capitalism.It was a great interview, and I've ordered the book "Shock Doctrine" to read. Pretty compelling stuff (though I remain unimpressed with the Democracy Now show overall - it has a tone that doesn't sit well with me). I think you can listen to it online if you're interested.
pc
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