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Posted by fayeroe on May 29, 2008, at 21:52:22
the Naval Academy graduation ceremonies that you can probably find on Youtube. maybe our embarrassment and horror will atone for some of your past embarrassments and horror...:--)
Posted by fayeroe on May 29, 2008, at 21:57:13
In reply to Sisisgmund....you won't want to miss, posted by fayeroe on May 29, 2008, at 21:52:22
Air Force Academy........any academy would be an embarrassment with what went on.
Posted by Sigismund on May 30, 2008, at 0:43:26
In reply to Re: Sisisgmund....you won't want to miss » fayeroe, posted by fayeroe on May 29, 2008, at 21:57:13
It was on the news.
I liked what Cherie said to Tony the day the weapons inspector killed himself over the sexed up intelligence.
She leaned down over him and said words to the effect that 'God knows you did the right thing'.
Except it was SO much better than that, and when I heard it I thought about aromatherapy and Iraq.
Posted by Sigismund on May 30, 2008, at 0:49:59
In reply to More shamelesness? » fayeroe, posted by Sigismund on May 30, 2008, at 0:43:26
I'm still unclear as to whether we have been seeing the politics of self regard or whether our leaders have felt they have been given secret knowledge that liberates and empowers them.
Posted by fayeroe on May 30, 2008, at 7:32:22
In reply to More shamelesness? » fayeroe, posted by Sigismund on May 30, 2008, at 0:43:26
> It was on the news.
>
> I liked what Cherie said to Tony the day the weapons inspector killed himself over the sexed up intelligence.
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> She leaned down over him and said words to the effect that 'God knows you did the right thing'.
> Except it was SO much better than that, and when I heard it I thought about aromatherapy and Iraq.lavender/rose or cucumber/melon?
Posted by fayeroe on May 30, 2008, at 7:36:52
In reply to Time to change the subject heading, posted by Sigismund on May 30, 2008, at 0:49:59
> I'm still unclear as to whether we have been seeing the politics of self regard or whether our leaders have felt they have been given secret knowledge that liberates and empowers them.
Seems to me that self regard is too close to self-respect.
I'm going with 'Secret Knowledge' that empowers and liberates.
Some get it from their "Skull and Bones" tenures. Some don't.
Posted by Sigismund on May 30, 2008, at 16:04:18
In reply to Re: Time to change the subject heading, posted by fayeroe on May 30, 2008, at 7:36:52
The self regard I was thinking of was closer to narcissism.
On the faith and resources front, Andrew Bacevich had something quite interesting to say in response to the question
'Why did we invade Iraq?'
Here is his answer as best I can recall and reconstruct it.
The decision to invade Iraq was made my six or seven people with quite different priorities. Cheney or Rumsfeld could care less about the spread of liberal democracy. What Wolfowitz wrote after was interesting. He said that 'weapons of mass destruction was something we could all agree on'. When he was first elected Bush was a squishy kind of realist, but after 9/11 the scales feel from his eyes and he became a Wilsonian liberal who believed in the projection of democracy by American power into the Middle East.
Later Bacevich said that he would not have wanted the responsibility of appearing before the American people and explaining to them why this happened and what he was going to do about it.If you prohibit historical explanations of events like this, then you end up with (what are the right words here?) Manichean ones.
I suppose the American people were in no mood for a lesson on the history of Saudi Arabia.
Posted by fayeroe on May 30, 2008, at 16:56:42
In reply to Re: Time to change the subject heading » fayeroe, posted by Sigismund on May 30, 2008, at 16:04:18
my brain died while reading your post. hence, my answer was way off.
i agree about the narcissism.
it is so hot here that my brain probably won't restart until sometime around October.
i don't like people who are filled with a sense of empowerment. to me, that is really scary.
anywya, it is too hot here to type. :-) pat
Posted by Sigismund on July 1, 2008, at 16:15:32
In reply to More shamelesness? » fayeroe, posted by Sigismund on May 30, 2008, at 0:43:26
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1155503.ece
Posted by Sigismund on July 1, 2008, at 16:17:37
In reply to Re: More shamelesness? Oh yes., posted by Sigismund on July 1, 2008, at 16:15:32
This
>You are a good man, I told him, as we crouched there, the cameras whirring.
>And God knows your motives are pure, even if the consequences are not as you had hoped.
is all you need to know, these days.
Posted by fayeroe on July 1, 2008, at 16:22:11
In reply to Re: More shamelesness? Oh yes., posted by Sigismund on July 1, 2008, at 16:17:37
> This
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> >You are a good man, I told him, as we crouched there, the cameras whirring.
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> >And God knows your motives are pure, even if the consequences are not as you had hoped.
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> is all you need to know, these days.oh my.....brings tears to my eyes, knowing how many people are living such tortured lives, while trying... and it will go on. i feel so much for Mr. Kelly's family.
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