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Posted by Dinah on July 17, 2007, at 17:28:30
I absolutely positively do not understand. Perhaps it is some lack on my part, but I just do not understand why smart ambitious politicians would allow themselves to put their careers at risk over something as mundane as sex.
They should never have fired Jocelyn Elders (sp?). Her message could have changed the political careers of a generation.
Posted by fayeroe on July 17, 2007, at 17:32:03
In reply to What is it with sex?, posted by Dinah on July 17, 2007, at 17:28:30
> I absolutely positively do not understand. Perhaps it is some lack on my part, but I just do not understand why smart ambitious politicians would allow themselves to put their careers at risk over something as mundane as sex.
>
> They should never have fired Jocelyn Elders (sp?). Her message could have changed the political careers of a generation.
my thoughts, exactly........what is it about political zippers? WD-40??????and Ms. Elders was magnificent..........xoxox
Posted by Dinah on July 17, 2007, at 19:34:39
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » Dinah, posted by fayeroe on July 17, 2007, at 17:32:03
You know, I understand that she was controversial all through her career, but being fired over something so self evident seemed strange to me at the time.
But then we had this really cool science teacher who told us sensible things like that, although she would have been fired if they'd found out I guess. Actually she was fired, so maybe they did find out. I think even my ultra conservative mother said the same sort of thing.
It just seemed strange. Maybe I didn't understand the whole story.
One of our senators is in trouble right now over call girls. I've been trying to figure out if that is more or less foolish than fooling around with less professional women. And came to the conclusion that either was foolish with such an obvious alternative in hand. And unless you're Senor Wences, that would be perfectly discreet and scandal-proof.
Posted by gardenergirl on July 18, 2007, at 1:02:02
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » fayeroe, posted by Dinah on July 17, 2007, at 19:34:39
What was the deal with the dress the wife wore to the press conference? Yi yi yi yikes!
gg
Posted by Dinah on July 18, 2007, at 8:31:38
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » Dinah, posted by gardenergirl on July 18, 2007, at 1:02:02
Was it out of date? I am fashion ignorant. She did look weary to me.
I finally looked into the particulars last night and was surprised to discover that it seems to be during the time period when his indiscretions had already been reported. Although perhaps not with this madam. Weird how that makes the news suddenly, when it was news a while back. I was sure these must be newer ones.
I hope for the sake of his wife and lovely daughters that he did indeed cease and desist at that point.
But I still don't get the whole sex thing. Like I said, it may be some lack on my part that I don't even comprehend it as a force worth jeopardizing one's career and home life.
Posted by tofuemmy on July 18, 2007, at 20:36:02
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » Dinah, posted by gardenergirl on July 18, 2007, at 1:02:02
The leopard print? If so...yeah, it was an odd choice.
Posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on July 18, 2007, at 20:46:24
In reply to What is it with sex?, posted by Dinah on July 17, 2007, at 17:28:30
> I absolutely positively do not understand. Perhaps it is some lack on my part, but I just do not understand why smart ambitious politicians would allow themselves to put their careers at risk over something as mundane as sex.
>
> They should never have fired Jocelyn Elders (sp?). Her message could have changed the political careers of a generation.
What I don't get is the obsession with the media and others about what a politician cares to do in their private bedrooms. As Pierre Trudeau so eloquently stated.."The State has no business in the bedrooms of the Nation.". JFK....ya he had a uhhhh..'zipper problem' as well as did/do many of his relatives. That doesn't make him any less of an amazing President, IMHO. Same with Clinton..I thought it was so unfair what they did to him. I think many didn't like him because he had/has a wife who is just as smart, if not more, then him.IMHO..
Jay
Posted by Dinah on July 18, 2007, at 23:52:24
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » gardenergirl, posted by tofuemmy on July 18, 2007, at 20:36:02
It looked like a flower print to me?
I could be wrong. I am fashion illiterate.
Posted by Sigismund on July 19, 2007, at 3:32:13
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » tofuemmy, posted by Dinah on July 18, 2007, at 23:52:24
You can't tell a leopard print from a flower print?
I'm impressed.
Posted by Dinah on July 19, 2007, at 9:50:47
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » Dinah, posted by Sigismund on July 19, 2007, at 3:32:13
Mystery solved.
It is neither leopard nor flower, but a sort of fanlike abstract design. Or maybe feather. Again, I'm ignorant of fashion terms.
I ran across a still photo while moving the pile of newspapers I hadn't read yet to the pile I admit I never will read. :)
She seems like a nice, capable lady. I can't imagine what I would wish to wear to a public discussion of my husband's infidelity. I think my inclination would be to wear whatever I d*mn well pleased and whatever I felt most comfortable in.
Posted by Sigismund on July 19, 2007, at 15:02:24
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » Sigismund, posted by Dinah on July 19, 2007, at 9:50:47
I attempt a lofty disregard of fashion. These running shoes I wear are falling apart and when the holes join up in the top they will be quite unwearable.
I told my son they were impressively proloterian, reflecting decent values.
'No they're not' he said.
But they still have some life left in them.
When I to to a city I don't feel so confident in my superior values.
Posted by zazenducke on July 21, 2007, at 16:52:32
In reply to What is it with sex?, posted by Dinah on July 17, 2007, at 17:28:30
> I absolutely positively do not understand. Perhaps it is some lack on my part, but I just do not understand why smart ambitious politicians would allow themselves to put their careers at risk over something as mundane as sex.
>
> They should never have fired Jocelyn Elders (sp?). Her message could have changed the political careers of a generation.So you're saying you don't understand the difference between onanism and hiring a call girl to act out sexual fantasies?
Isn't that like saying you don't know why someone would have 10000 dollars in his freezer when he could have just saved his own spare change in his pocket?
Posted by Dinah on July 21, 2007, at 19:16:04
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » Dinah, posted by zazenducke on July 21, 2007, at 16:52:32
I really don't, I fear, understand why sexual drives would lead anyone at all to jeopardize things that are important to them.
As I said, perhaps it is some lack on my part.
I understand the difference between dining at Commanders and grabbing a burger. But I don't think I'd be inclined to do unwise things to dine rather than to eat.
Posted by Dinah on July 24, 2007, at 17:16:32
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » Dinah, posted by zazenducke on July 21, 2007, at 16:52:32
I realize this is not really to the point, but I've never really thought Onan's sin was the one widely associated with his name.
It's just been bugging me that I hadn't added that. :) Tamar's long been a favorite of mine.
Posted by zazenducke on July 24, 2007, at 17:53:57
In reply to Re: What is it with sex?, posted by Dinah on July 24, 2007, at 17:16:32
> I realize this is not really to the point, but I've never really thought Onan's sin was the one widely associated with his name.
>It wasn't.
So what?
Posted by Dinah on July 24, 2007, at 18:27:50
In reply to Re: What is it with sex? » Dinah, posted by zazenducke on July 24, 2007, at 17:53:57
As I said, I realize it wasn't to the point.
I sweat the small stuff sometimes.
Posted by zazenducke on August 20, 2007, at 8:23:01
In reply to What is it with sex?, posted by Dinah on July 17, 2007, at 17:28:30
> I absolutely positively do not understand. Perhaps it is some lack on my part, but I just do not understand why smart ambitious politicians would allow themselves to put their careers at risk over something as mundane as sex.
>
> They should never have fired Jocelyn Elders (sp?). Her message could have changed the political careers of a generation.
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