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Posted by caraher on March 16, 2007, at 13:58:45
In reply to Pondering » caraher, posted by Declan on March 15, 2007, at 20:43:32
> That 30% is an interesting group to ponder about.
A few days ago I saw a new bumper sticker on a car that probably belongs to a "30%-er." It featured a US flag with a yellow ribbon across it, flanked by the words "Faith" and "Hope" and, underneath, the single word... "Victory"
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 16, 2007, at 14:54:39
In reply to Re: Pondering, posted by caraher on March 16, 2007, at 13:58:45
Good grief, over what precisely?
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 16, 2007, at 15:06:29
In reply to Re: exercise or lack of acknowledgment? » fayeroe, posted by karen_kay on March 16, 2007, at 11:17:42
> i hope people from other countries don't have that opinion of the rest of us americans. that's awfully frightening.
I'm really sad to say this, but there's umm, alot of people here in Europe who do just that - American's get shouted at in the street here because of Bush. There's been articles about it in the press and things (here's a good one):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4881474.stm
Its abit terrible to be honest.
Oh well.
Kind regards
Meri
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 16, 2007, at 15:08:51
In reply to Re: exercise or lack of acknowledgment?, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 16, 2007, at 15:06:29
I think that'll get be a PCB won't it? I didn't realise! Will people feel offended or put down by the article I posted to? Er.....its a good question.
I hope not it wasn't meant that way. Oh dear. I'm sorry if I've upset anyone that wasn't my intention. I was merely responding to Mrs kk!
Kind regards
Meri
Posted by fayeroe on March 16, 2007, at 16:04:24
In reply to Re: exercise or lack of acknowledgment? » fayeroe, posted by karen_kay on March 16, 2007, at 11:17:42
> too bad those strings aren't jerking a bit faster, eh? and too bad one isn't around the mouth as well? too keep it closed. i know he has to have people writing speeches for him, but sometimes i wonder if he pays any attention to them or jsut disregards them right before airtime. or at least a string to simply keep that mouth from being agape mosttimes.
>
> sorry, i tend mot to get involved in political debates, as i feel completely inept at discussing these things, but i've seen enough speeches to know that that man seems to have no thoughts going on in his head (except 'i wish i had a monkey' and 'i wish daddy was here to tell me what to do').
>
> i hope people from other countries don't have that opinion of the rest of us americans. that's awfully frightening.
>
> one more thing. i saw a bumper sticker that said 'at least clinton's lies didn't kill people' i think i want on eof those things, if only i put bumper stickers on my car. maybe i'd rather have a t-shirt.first good laugh i've had today.....thank you, dear woman. i am cackling!!! it just occurred to me, wonder if Laura wanted a monkey?
Posted by Declan on March 16, 2007, at 16:05:47
In reply to Re: Pondering, posted by caraher on March 16, 2007, at 13:58:45
Interesting and revealing, hey? To see the language of religion used in this way.
No victory for the people of Iraq, needless to say, but I guess that's not the point.
But I'm blessed if I know what the point is.
This is what makes some historic periods so interesting....the wilful and open eyed flight from the rational.
Posted by madeline on March 19, 2007, at 20:46:18
In reply to Al Gore, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 14, 2007, at 14:10:34
I wish Gore would run in the next election. He would have my vote - again.
Posted by caraher on March 19, 2007, at 21:15:01
In reply to Re: Al Gore, posted by madeline on March 19, 2007, at 20:46:18
> I wish Gore would run in the next election. He would have my vote - again.
Reminds me of the now-defunct "Re-Elect Gore in 2004" stickers :)
Posted by madeline on March 20, 2007, at 6:47:57
In reply to Re: Al Gore, posted by caraher on March 19, 2007, at 21:15:01
How about
Gore 2008 - Better late than never.
I would put that on my car.
Posted by karen_kay on March 20, 2007, at 7:04:34
In reply to Re: Al Gore, posted by madeline on March 20, 2007, at 6:47:57
that's the only problem though.....
perhaps if he found himself a new wifie? i mean i do have some issues with her views. i think responsibility begins with parents, not with musicians, you know? come on, give prince a break lady! i've heard that cat can ball (plus, he's a muscial genius!)
then again, i don't really ever claim to know anything and my views are subject to change by the minute:)
does anyone know, has she laxed in her views about censorship?
Posted by madeline on March 20, 2007, at 7:33:15
In reply to Re: exercise or lack of acknowledgment?, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 16, 2007, at 15:06:29
I think that the news piece was very interesting to read, but the comments at the end of it were the most telling.
I think it is a leap to hold all americans responsible for the actions of the president, especially since over %50 of the people that voted, did so for someone else - twice!
One thing I think the vast majority of people in America will agree on is that we want the war in Iraq over. But there is signicant disagreement here over HOW to make that happen.
Do we just LEAVE?
Do we just STAY THE COURSE?
Do we ESCALALTE our presence there?These are tough questions. For those that voted for Bush in the 2004 election, I think they trusted him to make the right decision.
Even here in the south (a bastion of the republican constiuency) are bailing on Bush according the polls.
Also, if you look at the last legislative election, I think you will see a significant shift away from the current policy, representing a cry for a change.
So I really think America is rising against the status quo.
In my opinion, people worldwide are pretty much the same. We want a better life for ourselves and our families, we want to be left alone to live that life and that, selfish as it may seem, is the primary concern. Politics for most is a secondary concern - almost a luxury.
Well, that is until it reaches a point where it can no longer take that secondary place. I think America is at that point right now.
Maddie
Posted by fayeroe on March 20, 2007, at 8:22:51
In reply to Re: exercise or lack of acknowledgment? » Meri-Tuuli, posted by madeline on March 20, 2007, at 7:33:15
Maddie, I spoke last night at a MoveOn.org rally in Austin, Texas and was overwhelmed by the turnout. And there were more young people that I could have ever expected to show up on a Monday night and March across a bridge!!!!
It's clear what Central Texas wants! pat
Posted by fayeroe on March 20, 2007, at 15:39:42
In reply to what about tipper?, posted by karen_kay on March 20, 2007, at 7:04:34
> that's the only problem though.....
>
> perhaps if he found himself a new wifie? i mean i do have some issues with her views. i think responsibility begins with parents, not with musicians, you know? come on, give prince a break lady! i've heard that cat can ball (plus, he's a muscial genius!)
>
> then again, i don't really ever claim to know anything and my views are subject to change by the minute:)
>
> does anyone know, has she laxed in her views about censorship?well, Al did grab her *ss onstage during the Democratic convention and she didn't hit him or bite him or pull his hair.......maybe she's mellow, fellow now.......
Posted by scratchpad on March 20, 2007, at 15:52:40
In reply to what about tipper?, posted by karen_kay on March 20, 2007, at 7:04:34
> that's the only problem though.....
>
> perhaps if he found himself a new wifie? i mean i do have some issues with her views. i think responsibility begins with parents, not with musicians, you know? come on, give prince a break lady! i've heard that cat can ball (plus, he's a muscial genius!)
>
> then again, i don't really ever claim to know anything and my views are subject to change by the minute:)
>
> does anyone know, has she laxed in her views about censorship?I don't know about her current stance on censorship, but I'll never forget when Frank Zappa put some material about her back in the day... maybe from his Sheik Yerbouti album? (Which refused to link to Amazon.)
sp
Posted by laima on March 21, 2007, at 23:10:04
In reply to what about tipper?, posted by karen_kay on March 20, 2007, at 7:04:34
...tipper's a small price to pay, as the saying goes. Though, just imagine if Gore was President in Sept 2001- where would all the finger pointing have gone?
> that's the only problem though.....
>
> perhaps if he found himself a new wifie? i mean i do have some issues with her views. i think responsibility begins with parents, not with musicians, you know? come on, give prince a break lady! i've heard that cat can ball (plus, he's a muscial genius!)
>
> then again, i don't really ever claim to know anything and my views are subject to change by the minute:)
>
> does anyone know, has she laxed in her views about censorship?
Posted by karen_kay on March 23, 2007, at 9:41:38
In reply to Re: what about tipper? » karen_kay, posted by fayeroe on March 20, 2007, at 15:39:42
i remember that one. perhaps that changes my mind a bit. still, enough with the prudes in the white house :) anyone who can take a good spanking is good in my book!
but, if......... and then she starts that up again, i see bad things. there was quite a bit of backlash. mister gore needs a leash on that pup. it would be quite a change with a mrs as president, woudln't it? let a woman do the butt smacking for once!!!! and i'm quite sure mr clinton wouldn't ahve a problem getting spanked in public.
Posted by karen_kay on March 23, 2007, at 9:51:55
In reply to Re: what about tipper? » karen_kay, posted by scratchpad on March 20, 2007, at 15:52:40
i know danzig (formerly from the misfits) (blasted devil music, thanks mr kk) wrote a song specifically devoted to tipper and her stand called mother which was played regularly on the radio. i think that's the most popular danzig song.
honestly, when duckie gets older, i'm going to know what he's listening to, what he's watching. he won't be listening to the same things i do (god forbid the same things his father does. of course that's a joke. as i've realized what i refer to as devil music has no or very little profanity. so, one of the musicians she actually referred to wasn't corrupting youth. glenn danzig is straight (no drugs, ect.).
i just don't like the idea of politicians trying to raise our children (though it seems someone needs to, i'm still upset at all the young children at r rated movies !!!!! GRRRRR!!!). not raising, but setting guidelines for us, i guess. there are still some responsible people out here who can raise children and do it well thank you very much.
and i have a sister who lets her daughter (who she doesn't have custody of, thank god) do ANYTHING she wants, not jsut lets her though, encourages her. makes me sick. wait, where's the politics in this? if i choke my sister and go to jail, would that make it a political discussion?
Posted by karen_kay on March 23, 2007, at 9:54:55
In reply to Re: what about tipper? » karen_kay, posted by laima on March 21, 2007, at 23:10:04
but, i wonder what would be happening today if he had been in office then as well....
it is very thought provoking.
just glad that finally someone new is coming in. hopefully whoever it is won't jsut be blamed for having to clean up a mess they had nothing to do with, you know? that's the crappy part of the job. i wouldn't want it.
Posted by fayeroe on March 23, 2007, at 15:29:56
In reply to there were several » scratchpad, posted by karen_kay on March 23, 2007, at 9:51:55
and i have a sister who lets her daughter (who she doesn't have custody of, thank god) do ANYTHING she wants, not jsut lets her though, encourages her. makes me sick. wait, where's the politics in this? if i choke my sister and go to jail, would that make it a political discussion?
kk, i would demonstrate and resonate and contemplate my navel and do whatever it would take to draw attention to your being jailed for choking your dumb sister.....and that would make it a political discussion. and it would be fair and balanced.
Posted by fayeroe on March 23, 2007, at 15:33:29
In reply to Re: what about tipper? » karen_kay, posted by fayeroe on March 20, 2007, at 15:39:42
> > that's the only problem though.....
> >
> > perhaps if he found himself a new wifie? i mean i do have some issues with her views. i think responsibility begins with parents, not with musicians, you know? come on, give prince a break lady! i've heard that cat can ball (plus, he's a muscial genius!)
> >
> > then again, i don't really ever claim to know anything and my views are subject to change by the minute:)
> >
> > does anyone know, has she laxed in her views about censorship?
>
> well, Al did grab her *ss onstage during the Democratic convention and she didn't hit him or bite him or pull his hair.......maybe she's mellow, fellow now.......
>
>well, even with the *ss grabbing, i'd still have reservations about her. i don't want anyone telling me what my children can listen to. i did that very well, thank you, and you can ask them.....and they will tell you that when i would give their music back to them, after taking it on road trips, they enjoyed it very much. my oldest is a photog and mostly photographs punk bands......they got a good 'raisin......
Posted by Declan on March 23, 2007, at 19:35:30
In reply to Re: what about tipper?, posted by fayeroe on March 23, 2007, at 15:33:29
All I want is a government that I don't much like, that governs in a centrist pragmatic manner, and does nothing to encourage another 20 years of reaction.
Posted by fayeroe on March 23, 2007, at 20:23:50
In reply to My standards have slipped, posted by Declan on March 23, 2007, at 19:35:30
> All I want is a government that I don't much like, that governs in a centrist pragmatic manner, and does nothing to encourage another 20 years of reaction.
nopoe. not slipped. more realistic. waking up to what we can have.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 25, 2007, at 7:40:19
In reply to bush is an arsehole, posted by karen_kay on March 15, 2007, at 11:44:51
> bush is an [*]rsehole
Please be sensitive to the feelings of others (such as supporters of Bush).
But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
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Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 25, 2007, at 7:40:30
In reply to Bush and Gore, posted by Declan on March 15, 2007, at 17:53:50
> Maybe the problem is ... the mindset that made [Bush] possible.
Please be sensitive to the feelings of others (such as supporters of Bush).
But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
PS: According to the current system:
previous block: 1 week
period of time since previous block: 11 weeks
uncivil toward a particular individual or group: yes
particularly uncivil: no
different type of incivility: no
clearly didn't understand PBC and made effort to reply: no
provoked: no
uncivil in multiple posts at same time: no
already archived: noIf we take 11 weeks, divide by 10, and round, that's a reduction of 1 week. If we apply that to your previous block, that takes you back to 0. And if we go from there, that's 1 week.
Posted by karen_kay on March 27, 2007, at 9:40:59
In reply to Re: please be civil » karen_kay, posted by Dr. Bob on March 25, 2007, at 7:40:19
i still think he's a complete jerk and arrogant (and this list could continue for quite a while, however my vocab isn't so great without swear words! (unattractive while we're on the subject)
sorry all bush supporters out there, but i still think i'm entitled to my opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. i support your right to state your opinion, just as i support my right to state mine.
regards,
kkmister bob, this doesn't mean that i don't like you (in fact, i'm deeply in love with you :)
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